5.2 out of 10

Grandview Parade, Gorokan

-33.25143 151.50005
Great for
  • Neighbourly Spirit
  • Clean & Green
  • Internet Access
  • Pest Free
  • Safe & Sound
Not great for
  • Parks & Recreation
  • Childcare
  • Cost of Living
  • Gym & Fitness
  • Lack of Traffic
Who lives here?
  • Professionals
  • Singles
  • Retirees


3/5 rating details
  • Neighbourly Spirit 5/5
  • Safe & Sound 4/5
  • Clean & Green 4/5
  • Pest Free 4/5
  • Peace & Quiet 3/5
  • Eating Out 3/5
  • Nightlife 3/5
  • Parks & Recreation 1/5
  • Shopping Options 3/5
  • Gym & Fitness 2/5
  • Internet Access 4/5
  • Lack of Traffic 2/5
  • Cost of Living 2/5
  • Public Transport 2/5
  • Medical Facilities 3/5
  • Schools 2/5
  • Childcare 2/5

"All about "Grandview Gardens" (1-3 Grandview Pde)"

Grandview Parade is a nice street that looks a lot like a country town. Most homes seem to be either owned or rented to good tenants. Of the non-lakeside streets in Gorokan, this is one of the better options.
'Grandview Gardens' was built in 2006 and has its good points, but the negative aspects are not immediately recognisable to a visitor so I've written these comments to help guide prospective tenants.

Units 1-7 are smaller downstairs units with small yards, while Units 8-11 are upstairs units (not really 'villas'). Upstairs units have an electric chair-lift for the stairs, but aren't suitable for wheelchair access (even though they still have disabled-accessible bathrooms). Downstairs units are fully wheelchair-accessible but their yards aren't all accessible. Floors are tiled throughout (except for heavy-duty carpet in the bedrooms).

This is a very quiet complex occupied by quiet, over-55s or disabled people who know each other on a first-name basis and get along quite well. Some have pets.

The upstairs units are significantly larger than the downstairs units (hence the higher rents) and have a floor area closer to that of a 3-bedroom home. They have no yards (only downstairs units have yards), but upstairs units have 2 balconies. All the upstairs balconies unfortunately face other balconies and so there is a certain loss of privacy as a result.

The units all face inwards to the central driveway, so the high visibility of the common area makes security good.

Some design/building issues:
- Unlike strata-titled units (the by-laws for which require upstairs units to be fully carpeted), all the upstairs units here have tile floors on a particle-board timber-framed base, so the problem of noise into the lower units is an issue that calls for good communication and co-operation between upstairs/downstairs neighbours.
- The south-side units 6,7,10 and 11 (especially upstairs) get a lot of traffic noise from Wallarah Rd (which is only one house across to the south), but the upstairs units do get the benefit of nice afternoon sea breezes in Summer.
- The units have a small split-system reverse cycle (not inverter) air conditioner, however the upstairs units have 'cathedral' ceilings, so heating in Winter can be expensive and difficult. The air conditioners are very noisy inside: upon inspection you should check the a/c and be sure you're comfortable with the noise level.
- The complex is not very well-built and, although it doesn't appear so at first inspection, there are a lot of flaws and so maintenance problems constantly arise, which in the past have sometimes gone un-addressed for long periods. Based on history, would-be residents should expect continuing difficulties in this regard.
- The layout and large brick/concrete edifices of the complex cause reflection of noises from the inside and outside of the complex, sometimes leading to confusion about their origin. The developing gardens and trees, however, are gradually reducing this effect.
- There is no visitor parking inside the complex, which has a remote-controlled security gate. Parking on the street is ample but can be risky on weekends, as one would expect, with there having been some incidents of vandalism in the street in the past. There isn't really any provision for any household here to have 2 cars: any who have moved in with 2 cars haven't kept both cars for long.

There hasn't been a burglary in the complex: the layout, the lights, the gate, the different hours residents keep and the neighbourly spirit all seem to work well in that regard.

- A lot of the units have had plumbing/water-seepage/damp problems and so prospective tenants should check carefully for any signs of this and ensure rectification is a *written* condition of the lease.
- TV reception is good, with digital aerials and amplifiers built-in.
- Several units have Foxtel already installed
- Broadband speeds are adequate. We get ADSL 2+ at about 80% of the theoretical maximum. Telstra seems to tell people they are the only broadband carriers available but do NOT believe them: others are available but it seems you have to demand it.
- Mobile phone reception is good on Telstra and Optus networks, but Vodafone is sadly lacking (at last check).
- TV aerial sockets are in the lounge and both bedrooms, but power points are lacking or badly placed. You may or may not have a verandah light (or it may be placed inside the front door instead of outside), depending on which way up they were holding the plans when they built the place.
- Electricity meters are 'Smart' meters with time-of-day billing. Beware.

It is helpful for prospective residents to be aware that this complex is a mini-community with special circumstances and, if inspecting, should feel free to talk to the neighbours and get a feel for the people and the place and whether it feels 'right' for you. It's not a place for everyone but, for those who can adapt to the challenges of higher-density living (in a less-than-perfectly designed place), it could be just fine.

Post-script (June, 2012): these units are all owned by one person; as of 2012 there is no real estate agent acting for him. If unsure about or inexperienced in renting, prospective tenants should contact a tenants' advice/information service to ensure they are adequately informed.
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