JohnS1
Reviews
"Avoid at all costs, trashy houso low lives, crims and ferals abound, loud barking dogs"
Realy crappy street in norlane, realy slow internet, had to wait months to get a connection.Full of barking dogs, ferals, druggies,houso's you name it.Hoons fly up and down the street night and day in v8's and dirt bikes.Ferals use the street to get to the bottlo and are constantly loud.This street and moreso Norlane are a real trashy scummy area, you may find 1 or 2 decent folks, but they are hard to find, this is a high crime area, our home and our neighbours have had attempted breakins, the police presence is almost non existent,the street has lots of loud barking dogs whose owners take no responsibility for their incessant barking all hours day and night, avoid this street, and moreso Norlane at all costs
Not great for
- Loud barking dogs
- Hoons in v8's and dirt bikes
- Lots of crims, ferals, and houso's
"Norlane (full of ferals, dole bludgers, barking dogs, and criminals)"
We have lived here for 1 year and have regretted it almost every month. In the first 3 weeks we had something stolen from our front porch, Ferals on dirt-bikes and hoons in V8's constantly hoon up and down the streets at all hours of the day and night and rev their engines to excess.
Some of the scary looks you get from the local ferals sends a chill down you spine, they all look like they just got out of jail.Every 2nd home has an unkempt, unmowed front yard with a rusty car wreck or 3 sitting in it, it reminds me of south western Sydney and the housing commission areas there.
This area is really run-down our local shopping centre has 95%, thats right 95% of the shops in the centre boarded up and unleased only a bottleshop that opens at "8am" to service the ferals, there is also a small takeaway and supermarket(shopkeepers to fearful to lease and open other businesses-true), under-policed area, full of druggies, crims, and the real scum of society, I know this is a harsh review, but it is the truth(really).
This is a high, high crime area and is full of trailer trash types, avoid this area like the plague at all costs, is full of housing commission. It is a real shame too because so close to the ocean. We will move as soon as the lease runs out and never live here again.
Not great for
- The stigma is true, this is a bad, bad, high crime area
- Ferals everywhere, really trashy area
- All the local shops are boarded up, only bottlo open(for the housos)
IN RESPONSE LOCAL OLD LADY (probably a real estate agent looking to falsely represent the areas appeal) everything I have said is true and is from personal day to day experience, I have not glossed my opinion up like you and some others have done but have stated as true as as close to possible as it really is , warts and all. You can try to convince others of your point of view, all I can say to any person moving here to norlane, is come and see for yourselves, spend a day here, go to the local shops, it's like being in an episode of houses, truly. Unfortunately local old lady has taken my opinion as an attack on her and her beloved norlane, I would take a look at her motivation at trying to spruke up the suburb folks, me thinks there is a real estate agent in the midst, you decide for yourselves.
My apologies for not replying sooner John, I was off for a few days having a life. Perhaps you've heard of that? It's no wonder you think you get scary looks. The "houso's" must see you turn your nose up at them while surveying the length of the neighbourhood's grass - and putting it all into a spreadsheet along with the street's Average Days Between Mow's (or ADBM, as you refer to it). Then there's that other sheet for the number of car wreck's in the front yards and whether or not the cars are registered.... isn't there?? One thing people usually learn quite quickly living in a place like Norlane, is not to judge before you've walked a mile in someone else's shoes. You haven't, obviously. Not everyone is lucky enough to have been given a good education and raised by loving parents, obviously as you and I have been. Some are just repeating what they've been taught and some wouldn't know what the hell you're talking about. For god's sake, go and volunteer at a soup kitchen or deliver bread to an AA meeting or the salvation army. Whatever you do today, get out of your house where people are revving their bikes up and down the street and go and do something to make yourself feel good.
PS. If I was a real estate agent, I'd still live in Norlane. I'd just have to get another house with a security system in the garage for my Mercedes. It would probably draw too much attention if I left it on the 3ft-high front lawn. Especially being unregistered and all.
Have a brilliant day John, Thelma !
Dear Local Old (real estate agent "or feral" in disguise) lady, your life must be weird, you know why, you are using this forum to personally attack an individual, namely myself. All I did was write a true description of living in Norlane that is factual, true and you have taken it as an attack of sorts on yourself and your feral mates or fellow real estate lackeys for some inexplicable reason. Either you have no life and are a feral or are a real estate agent trying desperately to inflate an untrue picture of Norlane and it's out of control, unregistered unlicensed car driving, drug taking and selling "houso's". I think maybe you are a combination of the 2, you are a previous feral with work aspirations within the real estate industry, me thinks you shall do well in that industry as you can clearly spin a good yarn "lie". Perhaps next time someone like myself writes a true life description you should read it for what it is, the truth, so my advice to you is, take a good long hard look in the mirror, look at you toothless grin gained from years of smoking cheap cigarettes and drinking even cheaper whisky, and staring back at you what you will see is the truth, that's right, you are a feral, all the best.
John, John, John... You did personally attack many people on this public forum. Firstly, by contradicting & discrediting every single person's review of the place, secondly, by making derogatory comments and judgments about the area's residents and thirdly, by rudely and publicly discrediting Kieran's response to your comment by assuming he must also be a "houso" because otherwise, he would not be defending them. If you want me to go on, you also made a personal attack on both myself and real estate agents, for my/their ability to spin a good yarn "lie". No I am not a real estate agent, I am now a retiree after many years in nursing and child protection. Before that, I also worked in advertising & marketing and also owned a couple of businesses. Of course, you can probably imagine that I am most proud of my work with children and the disadvantaged, regardless of the pay decrease. Would you believe that this toothless, smokin', cheap whisky drinkin', feral old hag, even has herself 2 university degrees?... and passed with honours! Another personal attack on your behalf, may I just point out. Had you merely put your own review of the suburb up without writing individual responses disregarding everyone else's opinions on the place, I would probably feel sorry that you had had such a bad experience here, offered my support and gone about my day. However, seeing as though you so rudely debated, argued and contradicted everyone else's experiences, PERSONAL OPINIONS & POSITIVE outlooks - including my own - I felt compelled to defend my post. There is no point continuing this argument with you any further, it is near impossible to educate the ignorant on just how ignorant they are.
I'm sorry but I have to agree that one must be very very careful living in Norlane. I lived in Tennyson Ave in 2012. One day I was lying in bed at 5.00pm having a rest after a long day. I was about to go out the back and had just driven the car in the driveway. My door suddenly opened and a youth confronted me. He ran out the back and jumped over the fence.
I lived near the small shopping district, Labuan square. Needles were a common sight. In 2012 also the small housing unit ( ? ) diagonally opposite the house I lived in was fire-bombed.
It's not all bad. The Diversitat Northern Community Hub is wonderful. Live on the Bunnings Side if you want to live in Norlane. Or Corio. But I know a very nasty stabbing that happened in Labuan Square. One must not be alarmed, but just be a bit alert and pick your street carefully.
...or carry a gun whilst walking your rotties? ;)
But everybody is both right and wrong. I moved into Moe when it had a reputation (deservedly) worse than anything I've read here. I bought a house (for $15000 ~ about average in 2002) and moved in temporarily...for six months was the plan, though I'm more than able to take care of myself.
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Within a couple of months I was touting the area to my friends in Melbourne struggling with mortgages...AND street-crime, junkies, etc. Four of them have moved down here and love it. Every imaginable service a couple of minutes away (including the best and cheapest medical services anywhere) and I consistently get to the opera house more quickly and comfortably from here than I can from the eastern suburbs. In the meantime more and more 'normal' people are buying the commission houses (sturdier than anything built since the 1960s) and EVERYthing is improving as a result
From what I'm reading here Norlane is on the same track ~ assume 10 years ~ and in the meantime a REALLY good move would be for people like those commenting here to get together into informal, neighbourhood social groups; get to know each other, perhaps pub-nights open all, etc.. The more that happens the more the arse-hole element will be marginalised and the less of an impact they'll have.
geez....I've nearly talked myself into moving down there myself!
......except for the absurd prices! Here in Moe I can still buy any number of (sound if poorly laid-out) houses for around $130k....and some of the ex-rental roughies for down to LESS than $100k. But they have been going up lately as more Melbourne commuters buy in.
All the best....and if anyone wants to sell me a couple of houses at Moe-type prices let me know (seriously!dabbbles-AT-gmailDOTcom).... and I'll bring the dogs down for a look around with my money in my pocket.
I agree with John here (sorry LocalOldLady)....
If you look at the way LocalOldLady writes her article, this comes from someone who's obviously good at writing, like someone educated writing a novel or book.... but as I was reading her review that's exactly that it sounded like --- a textbook
Unfortunately, life is not a textbook nor does it go according to some 'nice' historical facts that LocalOldLady seems to be so knowledgeable about --- which as John suggest, sounds like a real estate agent, trying not to scare potential buyers or investors in the area.
I myself like John suggested, went to Norlane to see for myself, as I happened to go there to see a house in Norlane close to Robin Avenue. I went to the local shops at Robin Avenue to buy some lunch, and I saw a couple where a man was yelling at his partner and swearing, and then another badly dressed man riding a bike with a beer can in his hand and the local people gave the impression of being housos or unemployed.
John wins, sorry, very true what he said, and I completely forgot about the 'textbook' review from LocalOldLady who forgot to put the reality of the negatives in her happy narrative
Does my little girl with down syndrome look like she just got out of jail? Sometimes I take her for a walk to buy an icypole. Sorry if we scared you. Maybe my pink beach hat frightened you?
Hey JohnS1, i dont think the apple has fallen far from the tree. You are RENTING in Norlane, so clearly you weren't and still cant afford to rent in Melbourne or in a better suburb? Earn more money and live somewhere better, and please dont play the victim card say thats all i could afford because then you will be contradicting your argument with the resident in Norlane. Everyone here who is complaining about Norlane have to understand that low SES areas attract low SES people. Food for thought
YAY honestly is APPRECIATED & the story continues unemployment addiction drugs alcoholism single mothers breeding boxes courtesy of taxpayers & thats why its cheaper as this is the underwriting they dare not add.
John, obviously you must have been under a lot of pressure to find a new home when you decided to move here - otherwise you would have taken note of the 3 foot grass and car wrecks in the front of every second home around you and possibly decided not to sign the lease. Yes, the area has been long known for having a high number of commission homes (or "houso's" as you refer to them or their occupants), but in the last 5 years, the local government has focused a lot of attention on re-developing a lot of these homes into social housing, rather than public housing, which means the people that qualify to "buy" them must be working, can be earning up to $90,000 combined income per year and can buy them off the government for little to no interest. Therefore, by doing this, it starts to bring a working class to the area. However, as most projects do, it takes time and won't change over night.
In my review, I said A LOT of the area's residents are European and migrated here in the 60's & 70's and keep their homes immaculate and well maintained and this is true. I did not say the European immigrants made up the MAJORITY of residents. If you have a good look around, you will see certain areas of which the majority of the homes IN THESE PARTICULAR AREAS are very neat and obviously occupied by house proud people. Obviously you don't live in such an area.
Most trains from Geelong go straight through to Melbourne without a changeover in Werribee and take 45 mins to an hour to arrive. There might be the odd train that requires a changeover, certainly not most or all.
Like all suburbs, there are areas perceived as good and bad - some more than others. Norlane is one such suburb of both good and bad perceptions. Most of the points the reviewers have made in all of these reviews that they took the time to write (and you so kindly took the time to contradict and dispute all of their opinions and experiences), is that Norlane's affordability (both to rent and to buy) in relation to it's location and developments, either planned or well-underway, is the reason why a LOT of developers and investors look at and buy in the area.
Much like Footscray and the Western Suburbs of Melbourne - which were all a lot like Norlane only 10 - 20 years ago (and were also made up of a lot of European immigrants - which, by the way, played a major part in helping the area's thrive), Norlane is already hot for investors and has started to become the hot area for young families, first home buyers and young professionals that work in Melbourne, which brings in a new dynamic to any area.
Next time, write your own review without putting your pessimistic comments on everyone else's.