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4/5 rating details
  • Neighbourly Spirit 4/5
  • Safe & Sound 3/5
  • Clean & Green 3/5
  • Pest Free 4/5
  • Peace & Quiet 3/5
  • Eating Out 4/5
  • Nightlife 3/5
  • Parks & Recreation 3/5
  • Shopping Options 5/5
  • Gym & Fitness 3/5
  • Internet Access 5/5
  • Lack of Traffic 3/5
  • Parking 5/5
  • Cost of Living 2/5
  • Resale or Rental Value 4/5
  • Public Transport 3/5
  • Medical Facilities 3/5
  • Schools 3/5
  • Childcare 3/5
Just now

"Excellent rental return for investors, good affordable housing"

This suburb was a surprise to me when I looked here. It is only 35 minutes to the city, houses from $260k with average house around $330k with a rental return of $320 to $390 p/w, low council rates compared to other suburbs and a massive choice of shopping from every spectrum.
I can see a small eliment of the rough and ready, but all standard suburbs have this in parts, and when you have cheap housing and a lot of industrial then you are going to get a few lower society people around as they will not be able to afford to live in the expensive suburbs, that is just life.
But you can always check out your neighbours before you buy and if your buying for investment purpose then you cant go wrong. People who rent normally are not in the position to buyb their own house so anything with close vicinity to everything you could need is a bonus. There are plenty of buses around, I didnt see a train station, not sure where it is, but I was blown away by how much this suburb has and even the local club, called the Greenbank Rsl, has everything from nightclub, cocktail lounge, kids club, bands , restaurant etc and a courtesy bus plus a kids club.
40 minute from the Gold Coast and close a bit less to CBD, not too far from the industrial areas of Browns Plains.
If your after a decent house in a cheap suburb or an addition to your property portfolio, it would be hard to find something of better value.
Pros
  • Good resale and good rental return
  • Close to all major shops
  • 35 minutes to CBD 40 Minutes to Gold Coast
Recommended for
  • Singles
  • Families with kids
  • Retirees
  • Students
  • Country Lovers
5/5 rating details
  • Neighbourly Spirit 5/5
  • Safe & Sound 5/5
  • Clean & Green 5/5
  • Pest Free 5/5
  • Peace & Quiet 4/5
  • Eating Out 5/5
  • Nightlife 1/5
  • Parks & Recreation 5/5
  • Shopping Options 2/5
  • Gym & Fitness 4/5
  • Internet Access 5/5
  • Lack of Traffic 5/5
  • Parking 5/5
  • Cost of Living 4/5
  • Resale or Rental Value 3/5
  • Public Transport 3/5
  • Medical Facilities 3/5
  • Schools 5/5
  • Childcare 3/5
Just now

"This suburb has everything"

This place has everything, from the first time we stayed here, we loved it. Close to the water, the next suburb has a big shopping area as well as a train line which is rare over this way. The traffic in peak hour is minimal and there are plently or options of different roads and backways to take to get into the city or just get the train. Never once have I not been able to get a seat on the train. There are a lot of choices of houses and property has not been as volatile, steady growth, a lot of older houses have been renovated. The locals love this place and they tell me that people dont liek to sell and that is what keeps the developers out as they cant get their hands on large enough parcels of land to build massive housing estates.
Plenty of nice little parks, friendly people, above average rent return, proably due to better transport options as well as having the appeal if Raby Bay without the huge price tag.
Council allows people to rent their houses out via holiday accommodation and the locals don't mind as mainly families come to stay and thats how they like it.
A few suburbs away, 15 minutes drive you can find any shop you would need at either Capalaba or Victoria Point which both have super centres with everything you could need.
This suburb seems to really hold its value over time as well as there are no sudden big jumos in value just a steady growth. Nice to see such friendly people in the area, happy to chat and smile as they pass you. Lots of people walking their dogs along the bay, this is as close to paradise in reality as you can get. We will definitely be looking to add this suburb to our portfolio after careful research, this would have to be the best suburb of the the northern bayside, a bit more expensive thant he southern bayside, but a lot closer to the city and a lot more choice for all sorts of lifestyle, I think it is a bit under rated and a gold mine in the future for those who have decent size blocks. The kids love to come here as well which is always a bonus.
Pros
  • Close to train at cleveland
  • Beautiful location
  • Less traffic than most suburbs this close to the city
Recommended for
  • Professionals
  • Singles
  • Families with kids
  • Retirees
  • Tourists
  • Students
  • Trendy & Stylish
  • Beach Lovers
golfers
golfers Never once have you not been able to get a seat on the train? Did you visit, or do you live here? Of course the peak hour traffic is minimal, at wellington point itself but describe the "plenty of options of roads and backways to take to the city" which you speak of. Which city? There is much agent talk here.
Not kidding anybody.
2yrs+
WelloWello
WelloWello I would like to add that I catch the train to the city at peak hour Monday to Friday. Whilst patronage is increasing I have never failed to find a seat either to the city (Central Station) or back. Express trains in the evenings are becoming busier and past Roma St it may be more difficult to find a seat but generally once a large number of passengers disembark at Park Road the vast majority of passengers are afforded a seat. Certainly from Manly onwards there is never an issue securing a seat. This is my own personal experience.
2yrs+
Hayley1304
Hayley1304 Hi, could someone help me please? I am planning on moving to Brisbane next year and Wellington Point is at the top of my list. However, I am planning on not owning a car when I move. Could someone please advise if that would be do-able here? Thank you.
2yrs+
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4/5 rating details
  • Neighbourly Spirit 5/5
  • Safe & Sound 3/5
  • Clean & Green 4/5
  • Pest Free 5/5
  • Peace & Quiet 3/5
  • Eating Out 5/5
  • Nightlife 5/5
  • Parks & Recreation 5/5
  • Shopping Options 3/5
  • Gym & Fitness 5/5
  • Internet Access 4/5
  • Lack of Traffic 2/5
  • Parking 2/5
  • Cost of Living 4/5
  • Resale or Rental Value 4/5
  • Public Transport 3/5
  • Medical Facilities 2/5
  • Schools 2/5
  • Childcare 2/5
Just now

"A gem of a suburb in the gold coast out from the hussle and bussle"

Main Beach is situation on the northern part of the gold coast, it is on the water side near Fishermans wharf and at the noth end of where all the Indy races were held and currently the V8 super cars when they are in town.
The restaurants are great and the pub at Fishermans wharf is right on the wharf with 300 degree water views and caters for all tastes. The Sheraton is opposite and has a seafood buffet to die for, if you purchase a Priority Priveledge care you can dine there with one guest for half price ($40 for the best freshest seafood around).

There are plenty of surf lessons and beach volley ball games going at the beach in between the surf carnivals and the multitude of motion picture camera's that can be seen there without looking too hard.

Surfers paradise is just up the road with all the glitz and glamour, as well as the seedy side we all read about, the ratio for houses to units is 30-1 but the people are all happy and the locals have a good little vibe going there. Everyone walks around as you dont need you car to get anything done ( except the obvious like a big grocery shop or bulky goods pickup) there are some huge warehouse style shopping centres 7 kilometres out at HarbourTown and the Billabong factory outlet, billabomg bikini's at $25 a pair and jackets at $30.

The realestate at Main Beach has been a lot more bouyant that the rest of the Gold Coast, it is the Blue chip area of the Gold coast so while it is expensive compared to Burleigh, Broadbeach etc, it is right on the beach and the locals love it as it is not as big and no where near the amount of highrises that the Gold Coast have.

Plenty of buses to take you up and down the highway so you dont even have to spring for a taxi to get to the airport, casino, restaurants, theme parks or the action of Surfers itself.

This place has had huge swings in the market over the 80's and 90's, went nuts in 2000 and has settled back to a steady growth now while most parts of Surfers Paradise are still finding the market tough.

There are a lot of retirees here but they are young at heart and most are fitter than people half their age as they jog on the beach,swim and walk everywhere.

I love this place, the smell of the fresh air, the vibe of the area, even when you go there all the time it still has a certain holiday feel about it.
Pros
  • Great location
  • Friendly people
  • Awesome beach
Cons
  • It is expensive but this is expected
Recommended for
  • Professionals
  • Singles
  • Retirees
  • Tourists
  • Gay & Lesbian
  • Hipsters
  • Students
  • Trendy & Stylish
  • Beach Lovers
golfers
golfers I agree, with your assessment of Main Beach. It is a great place with a great feel.
It also has a very high crime rate.
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5/5 rating details
  • Neighbourly Spirit 5/5
  • Safe & Sound 5/5
  • Clean & Green 5/5
  • Pest Free 5/5
  • Peace & Quiet 5/5
  • Eating Out 5/5
  • Nightlife 5/5
  • Parks & Recreation 5/5
  • Shopping Options 5/5
  • Gym & Fitness 5/5
  • Internet Access 5/5
  • Lack of Traffic 5/5
  • Parking 5/5
  • Cost of Living 5/5
  • Resale or Rental Value 5/5
  • Public Transport 5/5
  • Medical Facilities 5/5
  • Schools 5/5
  • Childcare 5/5
Just now

"Iconic suburb and with good reason"

Bondi is a beach suburb in Sydney, not far from the city. Excellent public transport, huge shopping centre at Bondi junction, great mix of people and everyone is in a relaxed mood.

I love coming to visit this place, the famous iceburgs where people swim all around the calender year even in the dead of winter, nice pubs, casual and formal dining as well a steady value in realestate, this suburb does not seem to have massive fluctuations in valules, just steady reliable increases and there is always loads of people at open hosues for properties for sale and rent.

The down side is you have to pay for parking if you live out of the area and it is expensive, no such thing as a free swim at this Aussie beach anymore, but if your a local then you are more than likely happy with this as you can walk everywhere and probably welcome less traffic.

An easy commute to the City, close to Randwick races, plenty of schools, a great Aussie suburb
Pros
  • consistant and steady market returns
  • Great suburb, within walking distance to Bondi Beach and Bondi Junction
  • Food
  • Sand
  • Surf
Cons
  • Weekend traffic
Recommended for
  • Professionals
  • Singles
  • Families with kids
  • Tourists
  • Gay & Lesbian
  • Hipsters
  • Students
  • Trendy & Stylish
  • Beach Lovers
golfers
golfers Great investment but if you are going to live there, the cost of living is extreme.
this should be mentioned in a balanced assessment
2yrs+
broodon
broodon blahdeeblah have you ever lived in Bondi? I don't think so, Bondi Junction is not part of Bondi, it is separate suburb, so you can't really say it has great shopping centres? Prices are ridiculously expensive for what you get. If you can afford, fair play, as it is an awesome place to live (lived there for around 3 years). Otherwise for the average Joe Blo, renting is the only option. Around $650 a week for a 2 bedder - I think that is a little on the expensive side.......
2yrs+
Jamesss
Jamesss We're paying $620 for 1 bedder! but not anymore, moving away from Bondi after 10 years of living there. Too expensive for what you get. Apartments and houses are ancient and their prices keep going up. Unless you want to surf everyday, there's no point of living there.
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1/5 rating details
  • Neighbourly Spirit 2/5
  • Safe & Sound 1/5
  • Clean & Green 4/5
  • Pest Free 5/5
  • Peace & Quiet 2/5
  • Eating Out 2/5
  • Nightlife 1/5
  • Parks & Recreation 5/5
  • Shopping Options 4/5
  • Gym & Fitness 2/5
  • Internet Access 5/5
  • Lack of Traffic 3/5
  • Parking 5/5
  • Cost of Living 3/5
  • Resale or Rental Value 2/5
  • Public Transport 5/5
  • Medical Facilities 4/5
  • Schools 2/5
  • Childcare 2/5
Just now

"Not what is once was, a dangerous and untidy suburb"

I grew up here and my parents still live here, I have 40 years knowledge on the area. In the 70's the place was s dream to grow up in, it was safe, you could walk your dog as a young kid and their were plenty of kids playing their own version of soccer and football in the parks, Oneill park hosted a hub of games and their was a great park their and the kids would hill toboggan. The islamic school on Cooper road used to be squash courts, tennis courts and a gym with all sorts of classes and weights. There was no graffitti, no robbery's, no rubbish and it had a real family and community feel to it. Bankstown Pool and Birrong pools close by where lots of kids practiced swimming, bankstown shopping square was big ( not as massive as today) most kids had a job thursday nights and saturdays at Bankstown square.
Sadly over the years the demographic has changed, there is now a lot of graffitti, unkept lawns, no kids to be seen in the parks, probably due to the safety issues and the violence of near by Bankstown, punchbowl, lakemba and Chullora has made headlines all over the world.

People have been shot at Bankstown, several times lately, girls attacked in the local park at Gazzard park while walking home from the train station, the reason the big chain restaurants have moved on is because they got sick of being robbed and vandalised, you only have to look in the toilets at the KFC to see what is all over the back of the doors in there, someoe even set fire to the St Vincent Depauls shop out of an act of vandalism and it burnt to the ground.

The resale values are terrible for Sydney, the area is an extremely slow growing area, when houses at Blacktown and Quakers Hill ( both not so nice suburbs but a lot further out, 50- 60km from the city) seel for more than Yagoona which is only 30 minutes from the CBD it goes to show how bad the area is.

I saw this once lovely green safe suburb go to the dogs over the last 2 decades and all the locals who have family living there for the past 40 plus years will be able to tell you why the suburb has deteriorated so badly, because of the people who moved in.

To look back at what I had growing up here to see my parents installing extra security doors and begging the 9 people that live in the house next to them to PLEASE cut their grass, is just sad and I really feel for the elderly neighbours who once felt safe and happy who now lock themselves up and are frightened of break ins and drive by shootings or getting stabbed to death trying to walk home, google "violence in yagoona, bankstown, greenacre and chullora to see for yourself, break ins, stabbings and rapes, wow, what a great place to raise a young family, NOT.

If you are considering buying a house here then drive around the area, go to the train stations, check out the local shops and near by shopping centres, do a drive by Bankstown centrelink and look at how people keep their houses, pick up a few copies of the local torch newspaper and read how many problems are listed on a weekly basis.

Dont take my word for it though, look into the websites that give you the facts on unemployment, demographic, crime rate etc, it is there for everyone to see. Everyoe would like to think they could grow up and stay in the vicinity to stay conented to friends and family, but everyone I went to school with has moved far far away and with good reason, myself included. The bi-annual visit to Mum and Dads house is always a stark reminder of how good we have it where we live, and they are always happy to come and stay with us to get away from the area, sad when people no longer like where they llive after spending half a century there.
Pros
  • cheap and close to city
  • parks
  • public transport
Cons
  • gangs and violence, thefts, stabbings and shootings
  • hume hwy
  • no banks
Donato
Donato Is your mum and dad's place for sale? I want to buy it.
2yrs+
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1/5 rating details
  • Neighbourly Spirit 1/5
  • Safe & Sound 1/5
  • Clean & Green 2/5
  • Pest Free 4/5
  • Peace & Quiet 1/5
  • Eating Out 1/5
  • Nightlife 1/5
  • Parks & Recreation 2/5
  • Shopping Options 5/5
  • Gym & Fitness 2/5
  • Internet Access 3/5
  • Lack of Traffic 1/5
  • Parking 1/5
  • Cost of Living 2/5
  • Resale or Rental Value 2/5
  • Public Transport 1/5
  • Medical Facilities 2/5
  • Schools 1/5
  • Childcare 2/5
Just now

"Surounded by housing commission areas and highways"

The area is not nice to look at, go down to the local shopping centre, schools and especially the unemployment office if you want to get a better idea of who lives here.

graffitti, not close to anything special other than some big shopping centres, a hike to town, terrible public transport, nothing special to talk about the restaurants or local pubs, the pubs are more expensive to eat at than the restaurants, how does that work?

Did not like this area at all, could not wait to leave, check out the bought and sold prices over the last 10 years, not a great return and still declining above average.

There are better choices around for the same sort of money.
Cons
  • Rough and unappealing area
  • overpriced
  • bad resale value
  • No schools within walking distance of the Wishart Outlook section of Eight Mile Plains
blahdeeblah
blahdeeblah Kaindec things 18 places is everywhere lol :-)
I have written a lot of positive things as are there to be seen, I tell it as it is and I have no vested interest, if people are so sensitive that an opinion of a stranger can upset them to this degree then I feel sorry for them. I am not an agent, I do have investments, one of them is in Quakers Hill, if you read my review ther you will see that I am honest and base my reviews on fact rather than doing what a lot of people do and romantasize a suburb for pure self gain. I actually write a review telling people to "check thing out for themselves", I feel for people who go into property get sucked into all the hype and then lose a lot of money as did a lotm of people in Quakers Hill/ Kellyville/Rouse Hill, I was fortunate enought to be able to ride ti out but I will never forget my neighbour in tears on my lougeroom floor crying as she lost her house telling "the agent said this place was going to double". If there is no fact to my reviews then this would be easy to check and it is after all my opinion based on MY experience, from ME driving around, ME looking up sales history and ME crunching numbers on the FACTS. At the end of the day, people will buy where they want to live and everyones opinion is different, your comment on the other hand does not make sense and is mostly untrue and purely a sour grapes instant react insult based on no fact what so ever other than guessing and making false accusations.
I would call someone who has nothing to do a person who stalks people comments and posts multi repeat comments along with insults because someone has dared to speak their mind( not supposed to do that on this site if you had read the terms and conditions)
2yrs+
golfers
golfers You don't tell it as it is, you tell it as you see it. Far from being fact, like you said, it is your opinion based on your experience. Our experience is always coloured by our subjective views and we all would do well to be conscious of that. Again, don't confuse your opinion with fact.
2yrs+
JadeT
JadeT Hi Blahdeeblah... Are you sure you are talking about 8ML? Located on a cross of three major arterial roads (Logan Motoway, Gateway and Pacific Motorway) is 'not close to anything'??? Are you serious? We can get anywhere 'special' in a few minutes! Even more if you want to have a nice day trip to the coast you don't need to spend too much time travelling through suburban areas. In any direction! Sunshine Coast, Gold Coast, West or East - you have a very quick access to all! Still if you don't have a car - here is a busway! Commission housing, declining value... You certainly don't know area well enough to provide your rating. I have impression that you probably copied and pasted your comment about an area elsewhere... Please do not misrepresent this or any other suburb, because you obviously either don't know what you are talking about or have no experience to compare with other suburbs.
2yrs+
SimC
SimC Blahdeeblah has lost their marbles....There is no unemployment office in Eight Mile Plains or graffiti. You are just an attention seeker on the internet.
2yrs+
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1/5 rating details
  • Neighbourly Spirit 1/5
  • Safe & Sound 3/5
  • Clean & Green 5/5
  • Pest Free 1/5
  • Peace & Quiet 5/5
  • Eating Out 1/5
  • Nightlife 1/5
  • Parks & Recreation 5/5
  • Shopping Options 1/5
  • Gym & Fitness 2/5
  • Internet Access 1/5
  • Lack of Traffic 2/5
  • Parking 5/5
  • Cost of Living 3/5
  • Resale or Rental Value 1/5
  • Public Transport 1/5
  • Medical Facilities 1/5
  • Schools 1/5
  • Childcare 1/5
Just now

"Removed and over priced"

The horse has bolted here, look at the sale prices in 2002, 2007 and 2009 then look at them now? This suburb is severely overpriced, it is not close to anything, there are decades to go before more infrastructure is put in for roads and public transport etc.

The area tripled in value between 2002 and 2009, the market ALWAYS levels out and no area can sustain triple in value every 10 years, this is a fact and one you would be best checking if you plan to buy here but are not sure if you will be staying for at least a decade.

You will spend a fortune annually on termite treatment and will have to replace fences every 6 years seeing sump oil is now a banned practice and people have not embraced colourbond out there yet, which I can not understand for the life of me.

Good if you are moving from a more expensive area to retire to a hobby farm style lifestyle, bad if you have a young family as you will be doing serioius kilometres in your car to take them everywhere.

There are properties out here sitting on the market for over a year because people can not bare the fact theyw ill be losing money as the area is still declining and rightly so as it is overinflated.

Out at woop woop, check out the locals at the schools and supermarkets, you will still need to drive to greenbank or regents parks to shop anyway.
Pros
  • Scenic and quiet
Cons
  • one accident recently closed the only main road in/out
  • overpriced, market boomed 2007
  • terrible rent return, market still in decline
Recommended for
  • Retirees
  • Country Lovers
MundoolunMagic
MundoolunMagic I have a several comments comment for 'ihatetraffic'. If you call yourself 'ihatetraffic' you are moving from a perfect location as the traffic here is minimul.

What area of Mundoolun are you commenting on here? There are two main areas, The Mundoolun Estate which runs off Mundoolun Road and Tremayne Road which runs off Beaudesert -Beenleigh Road.
I can't comment on the Mundoolun Estate as I live on the Tremayne Road - Birnamvale develovment area.

Pricing: Go back and re-check your prices. The capital gains are excellent in this area.

Termite Treatment: Haven't you heard of 'smart building'? Build out of cheap untreated pine and you'll have termite issues wherever you go on Logan and Scenic Shires.

Colourbond: Open your eyes and look up instead of having your head stuck in the ground like an ostrich.

Young Families: You whined about doing serious kilomentres with your family in your family car. It's a 15 minute drive to either Jimboomba or Beaudesert for most sporting events and activities.

Properties on the markey over a year: Yes, that is true in some cases, but again that is true all over Australia right now. The market is at its lowest ebb. As with all property it will come back.

Declining: That's your opinion, Do your homework and check the REA facts.

Out at Woop Woop: There are schools dotted everywhere within a 10 to 15 to 20 minute drive. You can drive to Jimboomba, Beaudesert or Canungra to find excellent shopping in the supermarkets and some fabulous little eating outlets and restaurants. Go another 10 to 15 minutes and you can shop at Logan Hyperdpome, Browns Plains and even the Gold Coast.
It takes 55 minutes to get to Brisbane Airport in moderate traffic. 45 minutes to Gold Coast Airport.

Terrible Rental Return: I know one local couple who have several rental houses nearby and they have bouyant rental figures and have people lining up to rent here.

I think you might have to admit yourself that a quiet country life with other families of not only people, but kangaroos, wallabies koalas, rainbow lorakeets, parrots, wild birds, hares and other wildlife maybe isn't the lifestyle for you. Come back when you get your act together.
2yrs+
blahdeeblah
blahdeeblah Maybe the couple with the rental properties bought them prior to 2000, they would not be buying them now for an excellent rental return, judging by the rentals sitting vacant there now I seriously doubt anyone is lining up for rentals. I accept that anyone selling their house or an agent ( which I suspect you are one of either as a buyer would not get so uptight and no one else would be looking at realestate.com and watching the feedback on the suburb unless you were one of both) would not agree with my review, however, it is my opinion which I an entilted to and if I wanted to see some wildlife I would visit a zoo rather than as road kill which I indeed did encounter while I was out there. The facts stand, you can look up sold properties on a website called onthehouse.com and you can type in some of the properties listed here and see what they last traded for, it is a free website. Property NEVER sustains tripling in value every 10 years, any investor will tell you that, not all areas have tripled but this one has and it is over priced which is why people are dropping their prices as it comes back to true market value. It is over priced for an area that is a rural acreage area and does not have the luxury of close by facilities, this is why you can buy acres for the same price as a decent house closer to the city, thats just common sense. I have driven to Brisbane airport from there and there is no way in moderate traffic you can do it in 55 minutes, peak hour is nearly 2 hours and middle of the day is 70 minutes sticking to the speed limit.

Im glad they date these reviews and comments , we will see in time how long it takes for the market to come back and as for the statisitics well you go and have a look at the houses that are selling for less now than they were last traded in 2009 and kid yourself. There are plenty of native birds all over Brisbane, yours is not the only suburb. As for the friendly locals, well if this is how you fire up because someone dares to have their own opinion ( freedom of speech and all ) then this is obviously what to expect in this area, I have done my homework, case and point 34 anne collins which was sold in 2008 for $219k and then sold again in 2011 for $199k, thats a 10% loss in 3 years at the bottom end of the market, and I dont agree that everyone thinks the same as you, one property on Tremayne Rd has been sold 6 times in the last 9 years, why would people go to all the expense of paying stamp duty, moving getting loans to the extent no one it seems is happy there, maybe they got sick of all the driving? Everyone has their opinions, I have reviewed a number of suburbs that I have spent time in and I own a property in one area that I have also given a bad review because it is the truth. If you dont like people to have opinions and it upsets you that much that you fell the need to attack them personally and insult them ( get your act together, seriously!! You tell people off and insult them because they dare to have their own opinion, wow) Im glad you like it and as my review said, good if you want to retire on a hobby farm and "check it out" people can go and see for themselves so dont go gettinng too upset because I dont think your little country town is as good as you do, it is just MY opinion and one I should not have to explain or apologise for, and Im sorry it has upset you to such a degree you felt the need to attack me verbally and insult me, I however, do not bully people who have different opinions and respect each has their own view on what suits their needs. Clearly your very happy out there so good for you.
2yrs+
blahdeeblah
blahdeeblah No vested interest, ingleburn, minto, hemmant,warilla, victoria point and keperra all good reviews, everyone can easily check out the facts and truth of my OPINION, you don't propose that people can not have their own opinion anymore, do you? Clearly you were irked by my opinion, 16 reviews is not "everywhere"
Im not an agent, i have not one single property lisetd for sale and nor do I intend to buy in this area, as for nothing to do, as you can see, 16 reviews is hardly a forum tragic, you on the other hand seem to have the time to stalk all my reviews with the same comment you posted above. The vested interest is not from me, I think it is plain to see for all who has the vested interest. If you don't like to people to have their own OPINION, I believe North Korea is a safe option for you or any other communist place, at least I didnt fill my review with personal insults or attacks on one singke individual which is more than I can say for yourself.
have a bex and a lie down if your going to let an opinion off a stranger upset you so much that you feel the need to go on a vengeful hunt and stalk every comment made, all you are doing is bringing down these suburbs more as your giving a bad portrayal of the attitudes of people who live there.

Someone wrote a bad review about where I now live, and I could see how they would feel that way based o what was important to them, I didnt go and attack them, I have never posted one insult or attack to any reviews as I RESPECT peoples opinions and their right to freedom of speech.
Do you go around saying " when I want your opinion I will GIVE it to you" lol.
2yrs+
blahdeeblah
blahdeeblah An example of freedom of speech is the reviewer below, username "mushlin" if you read her review on Woodridge, you will see that she really does not like this suburb at all, are you goig to go and attack her reviews as well? Do you think that everyone in Woodridge thinks the same as she does? I would guaranntee that some people love that suburb, but obviously "mushlin" doesn't? I hope your not going to go around getting in such a twist that you will be attacking everyone who writes a bad review about a suburb, or maybe you just didnt like the fact that someone wrote a bad review about YOUR suburb, who has the vested interest then? I really hope you don't go and attack poor "mushlin" because she excersized her right to voice her opinion based on her point of view. There are plenty of bad reviews on this website so if your hell bent on attcking everyone who has written something negative then get some suppliies and hole up because you WILL need a lot of time LOL. anyway, I really have wasted some time now getting MY point and MY opinion across, I will be sure to log on in a week or so and see how many other people you have attacked.

As for "mushlin" below, good on you for speaking your mind and I hope you dont have to endure any attacks of mundoolun magic or kaindec.

Cheers :-)
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golfers
golfers It falls down here because you say to check out the FACTS and TRUTH of your OPINION... thats a little unfair to everyone else. If your opinion is truth then how is it that Upper Kedron is Rated the Number 1 suburb in Brisbane and yet you Give it 2 stars. Your opinion is your opinion and neither FACT nor TRUTH. It certainly should be that people have their own opinion but calling your opinion FACT and TRUTH is akin to Nazism. There have not been too many who have agreed with you,,,,, Exercise your opinion but don't call it fact or truth.
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1/5 rating details
  • Neighbourly Spirit 1/5
  • Safe & Sound 1/5
  • Clean & Green 4/5
  • Pest Free 3/5
  • Peace & Quiet 2/5
  • Eating Out 2/5
  • Nightlife 1/5
  • Parks & Recreation 4/5
  • Shopping Options 2/5
  • Gym & Fitness 2/5
  • Internet Access 2/5
  • Lack of Traffic 1/5
  • Parking 3/5
  • Cost of Living 1/5
  • Resale or Rental Value 1/5
  • Public Transport 1/5
  • Medical Facilities 1/5
  • Schools 2/5
  • Childcare 1/5
Just now

"After careful thought, we are glad we did not buy here"

We looked at this suburb in 2009 and 2010, since then prices have dropped, the houses we were lookinga t sold for much less than advertised and a few of them are still on the market, one place sold for a big loss. We considered renting as rent would of cost $400 and to pay off a $480k mortgage with rates, insurance etc was double. But after spending 2 weeks in the area by renting a house off stayz we found that the commute to the city in peak hour was horrendous and we were not able to find a daycare within a 10k radius that had a vacancy. The trains were packed and trying to park at the train station was a nightmare, Ferny Grove was the better option to try and park to get the train but from leaving home, driving, parking and getting on the train to the city it took over an hour. Driving took us between 40 and 50 minutes, one day it took over a hour as there was an accident on Samford Road.

We took our very placid Rotty to the off leash park and we were told that dogs of that breed were not welcome, our dog was 12 at the time and had old age arthritis and had never so much as snarked at anyone in his life.

The blocks were too samll for our liking and suburb was nothing special other than being as the crow flys 14 km from the city but it mattered more to us the timeframe it took rather than the distance.

Our experience based on our 2 weeks there and careful review of what was on the market, prices, infrastructure etc detered us from buying and I am very glad that we did do our homework and first spend 2 weeks in the area before we committed because for us, it would have been a big mistake and we would of wasted money by buying then even if we did like the area, which we did not.

Even though the prices are still coming down, this place was not for us after our experience based on what was important to us, which I am sure, is not what everyone would feel.

My suggestion would be for people out of area looking at this place, to look up somewhere you can stay in the actual suburb for a few weeks before you commit, or maybe rent for 6 months, this way you can see for yourself if everything stacks up for your own personal situation.

We did come across a handful of people who were quite rude and overly opinionated in relation to who was movig into the area, there is a lot of retirees around, there is government housing on one side and there is a lot of new development in and around the suburb, blocks were small from the places we looked at in the 500K range, and very sloping with a lot of split level houses which did not leave much flat backyard, but that was the ones we looked at on the side close to the shopping centre and it was all hilly, the other places down the bottom were older style and we did not look at those after a local agent informed us the bottom of Keperra was the unsavoury side.
Pros
  • new suburb
  • clean and green
  • good for retirees
Cons
  • small blocks, terrible resale value
  • Horrendous peak hour traffic
  • terrible rental return
Recommended for
  • Professionals
  • Retirees
  • Trendy & Stylish
zarcomau
zarcomau Interesting review and some points are valid. I must say though this area has a great community feel and families that buy in the area are not looking for a fast re-sale for profit which is why there is stability in the resale values. When you compare the new development stock to existing the new stock does seem to be reasonably priced although when you add the additional cost of construction, time, stress, interest payments while renting this does not suit many families who like the area. Investors normally get into the area through DHA rental properties with guaranteed rent. The rental return on these types of property are quite reasonable considering the stability of the values in the area. I think with a name like ihatetraffic maybe living 13km's from town was not your best decision, although why not take the train which is a 5 minute walk from Upper Kedron? When you walk to the train you will also pass 3 daycare centres and a small convenient Coles shopping centre.
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blahdeeblah
blahdeeblah I agree with a lot of what you have to say, but DHA investment is a long term thing and if you have to sell you limit yourself to a small market of other investors looking at long term, great for self managed super funds though.
Upper kedron is not a 5 miute walk from most parts of Keperra and most people I talked to drive to ferny train station as there is more parking there and they can get a seat on the train. I agree there are daycares, they are all full though which can easily be checked, long waitlists. I actually live further away than 13kms from the city but there is better public transport and less traffic as more than one main road in. I agree property is time in the market but this area is stillig coming back to market values which reflects on the recent sale prices for all to see. With more developments yet to be finalised ad still selling the reality is that the traffic is only going to get worse, this area is significantly dis-advantedged with poor infrastructure of roads and there is no lad left to widen the roads, once developers hook into Samford and the areas around there ( developed selling off huge estates around bunya) then the traffic will just get worse, for a suburb to be 12 km from the city and it takes 40-50 minutes is just plain bad, and if you have to allow 15-20 miutes to get to a train station and fight for a seat then your commute is still going to be an hour at least. I agree it is a lovely looking area, anyone with their own business locally who wants to stay put is laughing as they can take a quick drive on weekends to the city and pay bugger all for a taxi on Saturdays to go to a hundred different restaurants and entertainment venues. But if you haev a young family and you work in the city and you have to battle to organise your commute as well as go on waitlists for daycare or go out of area for daycare and trains then it really is important to keep all this in mind. Nothing worse than being stressed about gettig back before daycare closes and spending more free time in traffic than with your family. Just my opinion based on my current needs. This is an area I would love to retire in, but not for a family with 3 young kids split between junior school and middle school with after school activities and a husband working in the city and me in working in the other direction. Others might be OK with that, just not for me.
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zarcomau
zarcomau The closest train station is Ferny Grove (5min walk), it is a long walk to Keperra (20 min walk over a big hill), It is strange that you lived in the area and were not aware of this. Although I have no issues with traffic in the area if this was a concern this will improve, when the development is completed there is another link going to The Gap also there are plans with council to widen incoming roads to the area, it really astounds me you had issues with traffic. There is also a planned retail/commercial development on Levitt Rd which I guess will improve infrastructure. The suburb is growing but has quality homes and a great neighbourhood plan, normally a good mix for future values.
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golfers
golfers The problem with people just leaving their opinion of a suburb based on their own current needs is that is not in any way reflective of the Suburb in any way at all. I really am not too sure about upper kedron being ranked the number 1 suburb but so be it.
There is really no reason to go around poorly rating lots of suburbs that you really have no idea about. Upper kedron is a great suburb,. where I did live for a short time when I was in the Army, and has HEAPS going for it. Ihatetraffic has apparently lived everywhere and has not much good to say about anywhere. Daycare centres are full everywhere and popular ones require much waiting. Most of what this person says about the many suburbs they have rated is ill informed and quite frankly, I think the editors of this website should take a close look.
I live in Keperra and my office is at underwood. The longest it has ever taken me to get to the office is just under an hour....ever.... normally around 40 min. I have read the many arguments Ihatetraffic has engaged in and honestly, it's a bit silly.
The reality is, yes, everyone is entitled to their opinion but when you say public transport is bad around here, you are simply ill informed and plain old wrong and if driving and you leave home before 7am it will take 20min from Keperra.
I have friend who lives at Cannon Hill and has the exact same traffic problems during peak hour. Peak hour is Peak hour and is the same throughout the inner suburbs. I don't think you really should be allowed to rate suburbs on this website based on not much more than a hate for traffic. Really? Come on
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kaindec
kaindec It is interesting to note that 1. Ihatetraffic changed his name to Blahdeblah when people started to disagree .2. I Blahdablah, formally known as Ihatetraffic changed all his ratings to one star for every suburb that someone questioned his logic 3. Bladehblah hasnt been active since the flurry of reviews on 25+ suburbs from Wollongong to the Sunshine Coast. 4. Maybe the moderators should remove his reviews or at least change the ratings back to there original rating as it is clear they are not what he really thinks.
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1/5 rating details
  • Neighbourly Spirit 2/5
  • Safe & Sound 3/5
  • Clean & Green 2/5
  • Pest Free 3/5
  • Peace & Quiet 2/5
  • Eating Out 1/5
  • Nightlife 1/5
  • Parks & Recreation 4/5
  • Shopping Options 1/5
  • Gym & Fitness 3/5
  • Internet Access 3/5
  • Lack of Traffic 2/5
  • Parking 2/5
  • Cost of Living 2/5
  • Resale or Rental Value 1/5
  • Public Transport 2/5
  • Medical Facilities 1/5
  • Schools 4/5
  • Childcare 1/5
Just now

"I was not that impressed, expected a lot more"

I suspect that a lot of these reviews are written by people trying to sell their houses, I was extremely disappointed when I went to Wynnum.
The public transport is not good at all, try and get to the city and set your stop watch, it will take forever. The traffic in peak hour is extremely bad getting in and out of the area. No where near the choice of shopping, dining or entertaining as other suburbs boasting a big price tag and the neighbourly spirit is nothing special at all, people walking around with their heads down and as I passed a few people and smilled and said "hello" I got a nod, a slight smirk and total ignorance. A lot of yuppy couples around and the housing was drab, overpriced and the so called water front and water view properties are not what I would call true waterfronts at all. Council rates are expensive as are water rates and not enough community based sports and activities, rental returns are shocking, a definite no go zone for investing, a number of people have moved back in with parents/inlaws trying to rent out their house to keep it after buying over priced and then havinng the reality check that having a first child and trying to survive on one wage is not feasible.
Not close to the city at all, hard to get in and out of, house prices are declining, people are losing up to $70k selling an average single storey house and up to $250k on a nicer house if they bought it in 2009, see for yourself on the sold prices, terrible performance.

Do your homework, drive in peak hour to where you need to go, check out the local schools, check out the recent sold prices as well as sold prices in 2003, 2007 and 2009, then add up all the reasons you want to move to the suburb. There are a number of more affordable suburbs around, I wont name them here as this review may then appear bias, unless money is no object and you can afford to live opposite the water, then you need to ask yourself what you are getting for your money that is so great about this suburb? If you love the beach then you will still need to drive to the gold coast or the sunshine coast anyway and if you like having a family work / life balance then how could this be done unless you work at the port or in this area, not many people on retail wages and industrial wages can afford to buy here if that is the case.

Each to their own, but I spent a good deal of time here and really talked to the people and checked out the whole area, did the peak hour drive, tried the local eat outs, tried to find all the activities on offer, most were at Manly and that place is over priced even more.

Make sure you check out all the facts before you buy and jump in here, good if your born a local and all your friends and family live here as money can't compare to family and friends, but if your coming into the area away from family and friends, ask yourself why?
Pros
  • Good if your a local and want to stay close to family
  • Good if you bought in 2002 and are selling now
Cons
  • Bad public transport
  • Terrible peak hour traffic
  • over priced and expensive council rates and water rates
  • outdated business centre
  • yet to find a great coffee shop
Recommended for
  • Professionals
  • Retirees
  • Trendy & Stylish
goodone
goodone You didn't do your research very well...
- Wynnum has 3 train stations, takes 35 minutes to the city. Also has buses and a Wynnum/Manly loop bus.
- You can take the Port Road straight to the Gateway Motorway. Takes 10 minutes, if that. maybe you decided to drive all the way along Wynnum road to get to the city. Hmm.
- I work on the city fringes. Takes me a 20 minute (30 minutes at worst) easy commute there and back at peak hour. Again, don't go straight down Wynum Road.
- Not sure if you read the paper but Real Estate prices have gone down everywhere.
- No, there isn't great entertainment hotspots, and I agree that is an area that could be improved on, but the playgrounds on the waterfront are brilliant, it's very family friendly - as can be jusdge by the packed Esplanade every weekend.
- No, there isn't a beach but it's a fantastic place for boating/fishing (if you're into that type of thing)
- Council rates are actually quite reasonable and water rates are the same Brisbane wide (!?)
- What do you call 'true waterfront'? Last time I checked Moreton Bay had lots of water, and personally love the view of the bay, bay islands and sail boats.

I'm not a real estate agent, I'm not a longtime local (only lived here 2 years), I don't have family here and I have no intention of selling my house. Yes, central Wynnum needs a facelift (and is slowly), and isn't the best place to eat out (unless you like fish and chips) but it is great family area, great lifestyle (nothing like an afternon walk along the water, or being 2 minutes from a boat ramp), and has some exciting projects in the works (ie recently aquired Wynnum Central state school site), good public transport, good broadband coverage. Unpolished Gem! I think Wynnum has an exciting future and I love living here.
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golfers
golfers Yes it's all rubbish...I can't imagine why no one in the street would talk to her!
Everyone knows there are no beaches on the mainland north of the gold coast spit or south of caloundra. I don't see what this has to do with wynnum.
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golfers
golfers she also says that getting to the city will take forever and yet in her review of wellington point, which is much further out, she says that "The traffic in peak hour is minimal and there are plently or options of different roads and backways to take to get into the city or just get the train". It is really hard to make sense of this person.
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hotchick
hotchick You probably didn't stay long enough to get an idea of what the area is like. I don't live there now but did for several years. I disagree with the comment about the lack of community activities. The Spring Festival has been running now for over 50 years. (My daughter was a "Spring Princess" one year). There is a Christmas Carols on the waterfront. A musical theatre society that puts on performances that are equal to anything that you would see at QPac and plays by 2 theatre companies. Plus the Halloween Festival. The trains take you to Southbank, the City and the Valley, even the Ekka when it is on.
I have an ongoing medical condition and never had any problems getting to see a private doctor or being seen quickly at the hospital.
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dustybuilder
dustybuilder This person sounds like they havent done there homework or cant read a map , If you drive the long way in peak hour traffic it will ' suprise suprise " take a long time . Getting to the airport or the port of brisbane very quick and from were live 2 sets of traffic lights woosh there.
And being a salior Its just the best place to sail, but the second hand shops are very thick on the ground but I believe this to be on the mend , The cbd of wynnum does need a face lift granted but I also beileve this to be in the pipe line also . But good schools , plenty breakfast spots over looking the bay , potential plus here and very nice place to bring up children : )
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ScarletEllis
ScarletEllis I agree with you. I lived there for a couple of years. I think the people boasting about it are either trying to sell their house, a real estate agent, or they are just the kind of person that is so deluded they get the postcode tattooed to their body. (Sadly people have actually done that)
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mclarke
mclarke There must be some agenda here as the amount of misinformation bemuses me!

Wynnum just made the API Hot 100 Suburbs for good value, low vacancy and some of the highest rental returns in Brisbane so I would suggest this something investors WOULD look for.

As for access you have countless options to both get out of the suburb (Manly Rd, Wynnum Rd, Sibley Rd or Port of Brisbane Motorway) and get into city (Gateway, Wynnum Rd Old Cleveland Rd) with many back street options. If it takes more than 30 minutes to get to the CBD during peak hour on any given day then you are simply doing it wrong.

I would like anybody to name any other suburb in Brisbane with 3 train stations which are well supported by the Wynnum Loop bus service. Agree the bus service isn't great but why catch a bus when it's a 30 minute train ride to the CBD?

Just for clarity, we have just built our house and have no intention on selling it!
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ScarletEllis
ScarletEllis It took me at least an hour to get to the city from Wynnum. Because I had to walk for half an hour to get to the train station. The bus took the same amount of time and was just as far away. Where I live now there is a bus ever 10 minutes right next to my house. It takes about 25 minutes to get to the city. The only other area I've lived in with such bad public transport was Ipswich. Really out of the way buses and trains are not very helpful if you don't have a car and live on the edge of a suburb. I lived right next to the water. Ages from the stations and bus stops.
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3/5 rating details
  • Neighbourly Spirit 3/5
  • Safe & Sound 2/5
  • Clean & Green 3/5
  • Pest Free 4/5
  • Peace & Quiet 2/5
  • Eating Out 2/5
  • Nightlife 1/5
  • Parks & Recreation 3/5
  • Shopping Options 1/5
  • Gym & Fitness 2/5
  • Internet Access 3/5
  • Lack of Traffic 2/5
  • Parking 5/5
  • Cost of Living 3/5
  • Resale or Rental Value 4/5
  • Public Transport 1/5
  • Medical Facilities 2/5
  • Schools 1/5
  • Childcare 2/5
Just now

"Could be a very good investment, one to watch"

Very close to the city, larger than average blocks, still can get 1-2 acres at a surprising price for a suburb so close to the city. This is not an area you would buy in to have a nice house and neighbourly spirit etc as it is mainly an industrial area, but then again, so was balmain once upon a time, look at it now, anywhere close to the city and near the water can not be written off thats for sure.

Not much to say as it is what it is and there is nothing flashy about it, I suspect businesses that own their own land will be laughing all the way to the bank in the near future, and once developers get in and start to put up gated style community residential areas then this area will change and probably overnight.

One to follow, good rental return for industrial, you just have to get the right tenant.
Pros
  • Investment potential
  • Close to the city
Cons
  • Industrial
  • Not a pretty suburb
Recommended for
  • Professionals
blahdeeblah
blahdeeblah I would class a person who has nothing to do as someone who persoally attacks someone else for excersizig their right to their own "opinion".
I would suggest that the person with the vested interest is ot me.mif you read the fine prit below which this website acually has built in you will see that " the opinions expressed within this review are those of the individual reviewer and not those of local voices" Maybe people who feel the need to attack people for excersizing "freedom of speech" should move to North Korea instead of posting multi insults and attacks which are only public displays of limited knowledge, lack of self control and a short fuse which will go off if someone dares have an opinion different to that of your own
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AdamS
AdamS Everyone is entitled to their own opinion guys!
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kaindec
kaindec They are, I thought the site was local voices not investor voices.
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blahdeeblah
blahdeeblah Actually if you read the page when you write a review it clearly asks if you are a local, a visitor, work here or wanting to work here, as I ticked the box visitor I am within my right to post a review based on my opinion which I have come to after going through my checklist of things that "I" ( not everyone and clearly not you ) think are important. You really are just being argumentative now because you are repeating yourself over ad over again and you seem to think you the voice of reason on what opiions people can and can't have. And once again you are WRONG as I have not invested here, stick to facts and stop the tirade attack on people opinions and stop incorrectly labelling me as you are telling me to stickm to facts but guessing away incorrectly at what I do and where I go. Investors ARE allowed to have an opinion as well you know, or do you propose to tell everyone who is an investor on this website that their comments are not wanted unless they are good ones?
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golfers
golfers I will state a fact. As close as Hemmant is to the city, it has probably the worst peak hour transit times of all and yet you don't mention it here. You have given quite few suburbs poor rating due to peak hour traffic and yet it's not mentioned here. You do talk about your opinion quite a bit but everyone who is intrigued by your motives, as I am, and reads your reviews, can see the baffling inconsistency. sorry, i have tried to understand you but I have to side with your opposition. I will not say a bad word about you but your logic fails scrutiny.
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blahdeeblah
blahdeeblah If you read the review, it was based on industrial, therefor, people would be travelling there to work OR if they lived there, they would be travelling against the grain for peak hour which I actually did trips in and out of. And if you come from the Canon Hill or Morningside direction, it has excellent transit times, funny how you seem to think you can use the word fact, but tell others they can not, rather bullying I feel. Your scrutiny, is not based on logic, as people can easily see by checking all your comments, that you have made a mission to make a comment on every suburb I have reviewed, this is not logical, this is a personal vendetta of yours. Please dont confuse logic with what you are doing. There is nothing logical about bullying people because their opinions and thoughts are different to your own. People have different values in life accordig to their own situation, theres no right or wrong, just different opinions. Im not sure what you mean by trying to understand me, that is very personal and a bit scary to think someone is out there following everything I write and trying to decifer who i am, where I live etc, maybe just let people have their opinions, and review suburbs you see fit based on your situation, as it is not realistic that you all of a sudden have an opinion and review o each suburb I have rated. At least I have made mine on experience from being i the actual area, I doubt you have spent a whole day in some of the places you have reviewed and commented on. I am flattered that you have given so mych thought to my reviews, but it is kind of scary by the manner it is heading in. I can see a lot of people would refrain from writting an hoest review in case people did this sort if thing to them, to think this all started over my review of Keperra, which was all in all, a good review. I seriously doubt I will write anything on this website, by all means, you can have the last say, Im not interested in you rants anymore, it was amusing and bewildering for a while, but it is kind of scary that you are tracking every comment I make like you have some right to override my personal opinion
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golfers
golfers Not overriding anyones opinion, just having my own. I have read your review again and you yes you have mentioned tenanted industrial property at the end but my comment was referring to the larger part of your review where you say how close it is to the city and how you can still get large block there and you compared it to balmain. this is all ok but based on that, so is my comment. Why is it scary? It's you that's ranting
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hotchick
hotchick Have some comments been taken off as these comments don't make sense.
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golfers
golfers Yes and No, You would be better to read the profile of Blahdeeblah and you will understand a bit better. She is referring to comments made on other reviews as well as this one. But for it all to make sense you will need to read the comments she has made on other, unrelated, stuff and some of them have been removed too. But if you read her profile, you will get the gist.
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golfers
golfers check out wynnum, mundoolun, keperra, wellington point etc etc
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2/5
Just now

"The market boomed in 2007, the horse has bolted, overpriced and isolated"

"This place BOOMED in 2006,2007, no growth now as the market catches up, terrible rental return for investors"
The area is still rural and properties are acreage so there is little neighboury spirit by default, you just don't see your neighbours. As with all acreages you need a 4WD and you need to drive everywhere, if you have kids and you want them to have a normal upbringing and be able to play sports and see their friends then you have to be prepared to drive 30-40 kilometres a day just to ferry them around not to mention the rest of the family needs.

There are a number of agents playing this area as " close to Brisbane" and "close to the gold coast", my advice would be to do a drive in peak hour to where you need to go. The are limited choice of roads which is a reality and the traffic to leave the area and get back into the area is still subjected to all the other suburbs around which are not coping in peak hour at all, you just have to ask someone who lives out there how long it takes them to get to the city.

If you are after an acreage as a lifestyle choice and you can afford to buy it outright and stay for at least 10 years then you will not lose any money, but , you need to look at the facts that this area has tripled in value since 2002, the market ALWAYS levels out and no area continues to triple in value every 10 years, the statistic are there, don't be fooled by those trying to sell you a property telling you otherwise, it is not in their best interest to tell you the truth.

There was an old farm area in Kellyville/Quakers Hill in NSW which was sold of to developers and values doubled and tripled in 2002 and 2003, this suburb has seen no growth now for a decade, you need to keep this in mind. This is one example of hundreds.

If you jump on the websites available to show sold prices you will see that people who bought in this area in 2008,2009 will now be selling at a loss and people who bought in 2002 to 2006 will be looking to get double and triple, but this market is still on the decline and with interest rates coming down and the international market in turmoil, an acreage is a big risk for investment as you get very little return for what you outlay.

If you want a rural lifestyle and you want to bring your kids up learning about animals, responsibility and dont minnd no mobile coverage and terrible internet then you will love this place.

It is expensive to put up kilometres of fencing, you will need to get annual termite treatment and like solitude.

Great for getting back to basics and having your own vege garden, a few animals and peace and quiet though. Keep in ind resale values if you are not sure about staying for at least a decade. The horse has already bolted here

Schools: If you look at the performance of the local state schools in the area which was advertised in the courier mail on Saturday 28th you will see that they are no where near acceptable, when schools get a LOW ranking in teaching ability you have to wonder what effort they put into the children themselves. Do a drive by the local schools at pickup time and see what they are like before diving in if you have kids, I cant imagie anything worse than buying in an area with little choice of schools and finding out the hard way that the schools are bad and then having the stress and worry about your mkids throughout their school life. Very important point here.
Pros
  • peace and quiet
  • Great if you dont like seeing your neighbours
Cons
  • Terrible rental return
  • Risky investment,market tripled in 2007,unsustainable
  • Bad state schools, can you afford private schooling?
  • public transport - not an issue if you have a car
  • needs more doctors & chemists
Recommended for
  • Retirees
  • Country Lovers
james40
james40 I disagree with your rental return comment - rents in the area are closing in on the 450/wk for a typical family home.
Travel is not hampered by continually stopping at red lights like the suburbs to the north. Every day is a nice drive through country side and though you do cover some miles, they are not stop-start miles. Believe me, travel is relaxing compared to metro areas in Brisbane or Sydney - a completely different cup of tea.
People live at Jimboomba because they love Jimboomba, having room to breath, move and enjoy the outdoors.
We see people every friday afternoon, rushing to get out of the city, get a bit of breathing space and get what Jimboomba residents get every day (fresh air).
If you live in Jimboomba and want to visit the parks, dams and trails in the Scenic Rim, you get up saturday morning and go - if you live in Brisbane, you have to leave the night before and camp, just to beath the traffic.
When you live at Jimboomba, you don't have to live for the weekends - you can enjoy the other 5 days of the week too.
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2/5 rating details
  • Neighbourly Spirit 1/5
  • Safe & Sound 5/5
  • Clean & Green 5/5
  • Pest Free 1/5
  • Peace & Quiet 5/5
  • Eating Out 1/5
  • Nightlife 1/5
  • Parks & Recreation 3/5
  • Shopping Options 1/5
  • Gym & Fitness 1/5
  • Internet Access 1/5
  • Lack of Traffic 1/5
  • Parking 5/5
  • Cost of Living 3/5
  • Resale or Rental Value 1/5
  • Public Transport 1/5
  • Medical Facilities 1/5
  • Schools 2/5
  • Childcare 1/5
Just now

"Boomed in 2007, no growth now as the market catches up, terrible rental return for investors"

The area is still rural and properties are acreage so there is little neighboury spirit by default, you just don't see your neighbours. As with all acreages you need a 4WD and you need to drive everywhere, if you have kids and you want them to have a normal upbringing and be able to play sports and see their friends then you have to be prepared to drive 30-40 kilometres a day just to ferry them around not to mention the rest of the family needs.

There are a number of agents playing this area as " close to Brisbane" and "close to the gold coast", my advice would be to do a drive in peak hour to where you need to go. The are limited choice of roads which is a reality and the traffic to leave the area and get back into the area is still subjected to all the other suburbs around which are not coping in peak hour at all, you just have to ask someone who lives out there how long it takes them to get to the city.

If you are after an acreage as a lifestyle choice and you can afford to buy it outright and stay for at least 10 years then you will not lose any money, but , you need to look at the facts that this area has tripled in value since 2002, the market ALWAYS levels out and no area continues to triple in value every 10 years, the statistic are there, don't be fooled by those trying to sell you a property telling you otherwise, it is not in their best interest to tell you the truth.

There was an old farm area in Kellyville/Quakers Hill in NSW which was sold of to developers and values doubled and tripled in 2002 and 2003, this suburb has seen no growth now for a decade, you need to keep this in mind. This is one example of hundreds.

If you jump on the websites available to show sold prices you will see that people who bought in this area in 2008,2009 will now be selling at a loss and people who bought in 2002 to 2006 will be looking to get double and triple, but this market is still on the decline and with interest rates coming down and the international market in turmoil, an acreage is a big risk for investment as you get very little return for what you outlay.

If you want a rural lifestyle and you want to bring your kids up learning about animals, responsibility and dont minnd no mobile coverage and terrible internet then you will love this place.

It is expensive to put up kilometres of fencing, you will need to get annual termite treatment and like solitude.

Great for getting back to basics and having your own vege garden, a few animals and peace and quiet though. Keep in ind resale values if you are not sure about staying for at least a decade. The horse has already bolted here.
Pros
  • quiet. solitude
  • Great if you dont like having neighbour contact
  • Space
Cons
  • Market has already jumped, overpriced
  • Bad rental return
  • Bad state schools, you will need to pay private schooling
Recommended for
  • Retirees
  • Country Lovers
1/5 rating details
  • Neighbourly Spirit 1/5
  • Safe & Sound 2/5
  • Clean & Green 2/5
  • Pest Free 3/5
  • Peace & Quiet 2/5
  • Eating Out 1/5
  • Nightlife 1/5
  • Parks & Recreation 4/5
  • Shopping Options 3/5
  • Gym & Fitness 4/5
  • Internet Access 5/5
  • Lack of Traffic 1/5
  • Parking 2/5
  • Cost of Living 1/5
  • Resale or Rental Value 1/5
  • Public Transport 1/5
  • Medical Facilities 1/5
  • Schools 3/5
  • Childcare 1/5
Just now

"After staying for 2 weeks as a trial, we are glad we did not buy here"

Keppera is about 13 kilometres from the CBD, there are a lot of developments still going up as well as at finalisation stage. There is a mid size shopping centre at the bottom of the hillside development which has all your basics and a few boutique shops.

House prices are still coming back to reality, they have been declining since 2008, this trend is not expected to change anytime soon. The traffic in peak hour is bad, you need to be out the door before 7am and it will take you 30 minutes to the city, if you leave after 7.30am then you will need to factor in 50 minutes, you will go through a lot of school zones as well on the only routes into the city and this can really slow things down as well seeing there is no choice and it is unavoidable.

The houses are smallish blocks on average, most are built on a slope so a lot of the the 5-9 year old houses are spilt level, few blocks get full use of their yards and front yards, no fun trying to get out of your car on a sloping driveway with kids and shopping so you will need a garage you can pull into, which means you will need a shed somewhere for all your lawn gear, tools etc your garage will be a no go zone for storage.

I know it is close to the city as the crow flys, but the reality is that unless you are planning to go into the city only on weekends you will still end up in traffic and 30-50 minutes sitting in traffic is bad and would definitely be a factor for me or for most people with a young family who would rather spend time with them rather than sitting in traffic.

A bugger of a place if you need to get to the airport in a hurry.

Good for golfers and nice parks with an off leash park for dogs, a few visits to this park though made it clear not all dog breeds were welcome, majority are small lap dogs. !2 year old Rotty with Arthritis was not welcome, the poor bugger couldn't even run and he was sneered at.

Schools are OK, no fun to get to though, factor in an extra 20 minutes if you are not close enough to walk, one of them is surrounded by main roads, personally, that would concern me, but the standards seem better than a lot of state schools in the area, there are private schools around, but none you could walk to and I would not label them as close by.

The people who live there that we spoke to ( when they would talk as most were rushed and not friendly) are mainly people who have moved from the city or city outskirts to have a family and can not afford a house in those areas and dont want to raise their family in a unit, the general conversation is about "missing paddington" or " miss walking to work" " miss the city" etc. Thats the locals there that spoke to us.

Values will hold in this area over time,a long time, once all the developments go up, bad for people who are selling houses which are not new as it is hard to compete with a new house price that is cheaper than a 4-5 year old house, and people will pay an extra $40k -$50k to get the building grant or first buyers grants as well as a new house.

It is a hike to get to the closest beach, you need to travel out of the area for househould items like whitegoods, furniture, homewares etc as there is only one small shopping mall you will struggle to park in, but you can easily check this our for yourself.

If you like going further north, then your in a good spot, there are some nice weekend spots towards Samford and the dams, but if your not into that sort of thing then you will find little else north bound.

Mostly retirees or parents who have careers, a lot of families only have one child and both parents still have their careers,lots of days cares but they are all full.

Before you buy, map out your interests, what sort of schools you want your children in, how much time you want to spend in traffic and your options for getting a train/bus as some people spend 15 minutes just to get to the train and park.

If your after a flat backyard you will be hard pressed as the whole suburb is built on hills.

Overall, a nice suburb, a bit of a traffic nightmare, small yards, decent shopping centre, well heeled above average income earners, nice looking and well maintained gardens and front lawns, respectful looking neighbourhood, just a little snobby and overpriced.

The people are very judgemental, and opinionated when it comes to what others think, we actually got asked who we voted for and when we declined to comment as most smart people know you dont discuss politics with strangers, we were questioned on this and the person got uptight about it and started making "guesses" about our personal situation.

Be careful in Keperra, people dont let you have your own opinion, maybe the day to day frustration of traffic and cramped living has taken its toll. But this is just my opinion, maybe it is not the case, check that out for yourself.
Pros
  • good for retirees who lke to play golf
  • Close to a good golf course
Cons
  • Judgemental people
  • small blocks, built on a hill
  • Peak hour traffic very bad
  • Peak hour traffic on Samford Road
  • Could be improved with more footpaths
Recommended for
  • Professionals
  • Retirees
  • Trendy & Stylish
kaindec
kaindec I find the above hard to follow, overpriced it is definately not. Where else on the Northside can you get a house 12km from the city for under 400k? Snobby it is not, especially re your comment about people who cannot afford to live in Paddo.
Where is all this development at Keperra happening? I cant see any so must be a different part of Keperra in another state. School Zones? I go through one on the way to the city, if I went Samford Road I wouldnt go through any. Sloping blocks, again where are they all, sure the are some sloping blocks but most are flat and over 650m. No its not close to the airport, if you want to get there in a hurry leave enough time, you will make it fine. The area has a lot of capital works happening with the train line and roads also. Getting to the city in peak hour is the same for anyone in Brisbane given the funnel effect and poor planning, North, South East and
West. We bought a house in the estate for 530k on 900m, flat with 5 Bedrooms, 3 Bathrooms big yard with pool and park across the road. Whats with the lap dogs concern with the off leash area? A least there is an off leash area and if your dog is unsociable then it shouldnt be there whether it be a rottwieller or a lap dog. Im not defending the suburb because of a vested interest, I just dont want people to make decision based on the above which I can see no validity too. Your user name is Ihatetraffic - maybe Mt Isa would suit you better and there very few yuppies and lap dogs out there and traffic flows.
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Simba
Simba Couldn't agree LESS with this comment. Traffic is no worse in Keperra to City than any other suburb. Not sure where you are finding these 5-9 year old houses. Housing in Keperra is pretty much either 60's single level in the old sections or late 80's ealy 90's brick in the old drive-in. There are very few houses that have been built in the area in the last 10 years. Yes some are on sloping blocks, that part of the area. If you don't want a sloping block, you don't buy there. Lots of schools to choose from, close to three train stations (Keperra, Grovely and Ferny Grove). The shopping centre is pretty good. Will be improved when they finish it and add in the Cinemas and Bunnings. Most certainly NOT a yuppy suburb. Working class is more like it. And definitely not over priced, nor have property values been decreasing. The have been increasing for the better part of a decade, may have flattened out a bit lately (where has not??) still value for money when you consider the amenities and closeness to the city.
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kaindec
kaindec Cheers Simba - hit his profile, 18 comments in as many days from Wollongong to Sydney to Brisbane. He is not a yuppie but comments on housing commisions constantly...
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blahdeeblah
blahdeeblah You are very wrong,there are places advertised for sale now in Willis street and Burnet street that are 8 year old houses,Im not going to go any further than the first page on REA to hammer my point home though as I dont have all the time in the world :-) My review obviously hit a few raw nerves but was an honest reflection, I had considered buying in Keperra, and I spent a few weeks in the area to see what it was like and the review I wrote is what I found, it is my personal opinion, it seems the people here think that people dont have a right to an opinion. If you feel the need to insult people for having a point of view then maybe you should be in politics.

The FACTS are that houses are selling for a lot less than they did 2-3 years ago, not ALL suburbs are performing badly at present, but this one is as it is its turn to adjust in the market, the commute is a long and tedious one and that is a FACT.

If you have to drive to Ferny Grove to go to school and use their train then why would people not buy there? School and Transport are very important in this day and age, I actually wrote some very nice things about this suburb and all suburbs have good and bad, as for a vested interest, I don't own a property here and I wouldn't buy one for investment either, DHA means your locked in for 12 years with below average rent and if something was to go wrong you haev to sell a house with a lease that could be 12 years, great for a self managed super fund, too risky for my liking , but hey, that is just my opinion. As for buying a normal house for an investment, lets look at the facts, if you go on rental vacancies also on REA you will see the average rental price in around $400 per week for a house that is on the market for around $490k, interest only on that is approx $650p/w and $750p/w if you want to pay it off, take out agent fees 8% $38 p/w, rates $30p/w, insurance $20p/w and moderate repairs of $15p/w and that leaves you $297 towards a $650- $750 p/w mortgage, how is $450 out of pocket a good investment?

There are areas where you can buy a house for $270k and rent it out for $320p/w, an investment is based on return and growth, these are facts, this is not an area to invest in and the facts are people who have rented for the last 3-4 years in Keperra have saved a bucket of money, I know someone who owns properties elsewhere but rents in Keperra as they like the area but there is no point payig off a mortage when they can ret for half that, get their tax offsets as well and someone else pays the repairs, the person on the bad end of that stick is the owner! FACT.

I actually wrote my first review here months ago, not 18 days ago, and evry now and then when I am following the market to see what is happening and comparing it to the same time the year berfore ( I have print out of bought and sold prices for the last decade, you would have a fit if I put them up here )

This in MY opinion and I am entitled to it, it is not wise to road rage on websites, all you are portraying is that the area is full of self righteous people who blow a gasket and before vengeful and spiteful if they hear something they don't like. I would never move to an area where there was this much tension. On a whole my review was a good one, " nice but slightly overpriced" if this is how you react to this review then god help you if something ever goes wrong in your life.

Sorry I have managed to cause a mass upset , I am amazed that so many people have invested the time to be so upset and exhibit so much anger over my review. Wow.

The review above mine has a few similiar opinions to mine as well, are you going to vent out and attack them personally as well, wow, ,maybe spending all that time commuting to work, trying to park at schools, ad watching your house values dropped has set off a road rage type bahvaiour pattern that you vent out on people who have excersized their right to freedom of speech.
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kaindec
kaindec Yes, you are entitled to your view. When it is factually wrong then it should be corrected. Also I didn't attack you personally, I just told you where to go.In fact your are the one who attacked countless people by stereotying people in suburbs and economic positions.

You posted 18 reviews in as many days mainly negative overall, if you did them months ago then they are showing up from the 12th Jan 2012 with references to housing commissions, the people that live in those suburbs and other inflammatory comments.People are naturally going to be offended and react so expect it.

Your an investor clearly, prices have gone down but people who plan to live in a place long term as the principal place of residence wont mind as it is a long term proposition. The term " Equity mate" went out of the window some time ago and was a bank error of judgement in hindsight.

So lets look at the Keperra review -

Traffic - Same everywhere it every city. Always going to be a point of discussion, since you have been here there has been approval for captial works to ease traffic congestion. However in reality it will still be an issue but somewhat less.

House Prices - Keperra is not Roninson Crusoe here, pricing has gone down but not by as much as other suburbs. In fact it has continuously been named a great place to buy and invest. The houses on you are discussing have hit the market overpriced and such become stagnant. Bad RE advice or unrealistic vendor expectations. Also they are not appealing houses if you had looked at them compared to other houses on the market.

Development - where is this that you are talking about. Havent seen around here in years.

Sloping block, like every suburb it has some. However most are flat and sizeable

School Zones - There a good idea as it protects the kids, but like I said I only go through one all the way to the city. Some people may hit 2. Point being there are plently of schools in the area and all got good results in th recent audit from the govt.

Transport - 3 train station with 1km and being upgraded with dual track and more parking.

No it is not close to a beach and not close to the airport. Google earth would show that.

Your roadrage comment is far fetched given your the condecending person with your views. Also your comment " I have print out of bought and sold prices for the last decade, you would have a fit if I put them up here " I wouldnt care but be careful around privacy laws, either way you can get them on the website onthehouse.com.au for free which is what I used before making an offer on the house I live in.

I hope you get enjoyment out of judging people, the area's they live in and have lots of fun rolling around in the money you will soon loose if you have any based on your analysis/reviews As you really dont know an area until you spend some time there. Either way, most people that read your reviews hatetraffic as well. Now thats road rage..
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blahdeeblah
blahdeeblah I didnt judge anybody, I posted MY opinion on a suburb, you are the one decided in your mind to convert it to a personal attack, you the one claimig I have lost money, claim to know what others think and feel and attack people for not having the same opinion as you do, then have a full blown tanti if someone calls you up on it, yawn yawn, stop being so sensitive and harping on about the same thing, Im allowed to vocie my opinion, others on here seem to agree with me and some agree with you, its called freedom of speech
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blahdeeblah
blahdeeblah How is hating traffic road rage lol, big difference between hating traffic and deciding to live in an area that doesnt have as much opposed to abusing people who right something slightly negative about your area, if you read the review, it is mostly positive, you have made a storm in a tea cup. I can oly put it down to stress from all the traffic you sit in :-)
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kaindec
kaindec You say you dont judge people - below is your Woolaware review .I wont add all the housing commission comments -

Unfriendly and judgemental residents"
If you can afford to have a new BMW or live on the water then you will love this area. If you visit the local schools you will see the types of Mums picking up their kids. The ones dressed to the nines parking their new 4wd smothered in bling and the mums who have walked to the school and look like they have spent the day caring for kids and doing housework rather than directing the cleaner on what to do next.

This suburb has a big issue with what side of the fence you are on financially, kids as young as 5 are being questioned on the labels they wear and the occupations or residential status of their parents.

If you want you children to grow up level headed with good manners then I would not recommend you do do in this suburb, but if you dont mind your kids being spoilt brats who are rude to people and have no manners then you will love the attitude of the locals.

You say you do your research by driving through a suburb and other data. Living in a suburb is a lot different. Whilst your review has positives, it is also full of inaccuracies which have been pointed out several times, your constant reply is your being attached and freedom of speech.

Everyone is entitled to freedom of speech but when you start judging the people expect to have a response. Would love to know where in the few capital cities suburbs in this fine country you dont get traffic and child care vacancy issues as well as property prices are not on the decline if not bottomed out.
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blahdeeblah
blahdeeblah The reason you keep getting your comments removed by the administrators is because you are not supposed to make person attacks on peoples opinion, my opinion of the suburbs I have reviewed is based on my experience, there is also another person who made s similair review on Woolooware, do you intend to attack them as well? I did not single anyone out, call them names or attack their opinion, which is what you are contining to do, all you are doing is bringing lots of bad attention to your suburb so I really could not care less that you are having heart failure that I do not want to live their for my reasons, I saw another post from someone else who does not like it either and lost money, are you intending on attacking them as well, Seriously, you are not going to change my opinion on your suburb, get over it. If anything, your bullying behaviour confirms even more what I thought of the area.
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blahdeeblah
blahdeeblah PS. Do you know your not supposed to cut and paste other peoples comments, maybe read the terms and conditions on this website seeing you seem to not understand why your comments are continually removed and you dont learnt from your mistakes it would seem.
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kaindec
kaindec I haven't made an attack on you and I have only ever responded to you. Your freedom of speech ramble works both ways. I dont know you personally to really care. Anyone that responds to you is making an personal attack in your eyes. You keep steering off the track and not answering the questions. Im not having heart failure, more getting enjoyment at giving you what you give when you generalise people into categories.

PS -PS. Do you know your not supposed to cut and paste other peoples comments, maybe read the terms and conditions on this website seeing you seem to not understand why your comments are continually removed and you dont learnt from your mistakes it would seem.
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blahdeeblah
blahdeeblah Seriosly, if you actually READ this review I wrote about Keperra, it is overall a good one, you obviously have issues with anyone voicing their opinion if you feel the need to rant and rave beacuse "I" think your suburb is "overpriced" and I might add, I am NOT the only one who feels this,I have answered myself very clearly, you ont eh other hand, have not! Are you going to go around attacking EVERYONE who who does not think Keperra is good value OR who thinks the infrastructure is too bad to cope? I see another reviewer here who seems to have a similair view to me? Are you intending on attacking "fitzy88" as well? Or are you just singlig me out in a bully style stalking manner because as you have put it , it seems to give you enjoyment. As for "giving" me it. What the! Tell me, how long has your house been on the market, not since june last year I hope.
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blahdeeblah
blahdeeblah Where on ewaerth in the Keperra review I wrote is there anything about housing commission anyway, seems you think you have the right to judge people without even having a clue about the area they live in. I suppose you support the cronulla riots as well, that suburb adjoins Wollooware, and I am entitled to have MY opinion on what "some" people in the area are like. For example, you seem very argumentative, I wouldnn't want a neighbour who banged on and on and god forbid there was a fence issue lol.
too funny, you have a good day and Im sorry that this pretty good review I wrote about Keperra has offended you to the extent that you HAVE been on a personal attack to the point you have invested so much time reading ALL my reviews and then commebnting on each and everyone, of course your multipostinngs and abuse have been removed by the administrators, but Im sure they wont be the last comments of yours removed. I actually realise that there ios no gettig through to some people so I will leave you to it, no doubt your the sort of person who likes the last word so I can guarantee when i get back from my weekend away I will no doubt see that you have once again had something else to say on this topic which I am sure by now is boring everyone, including me. Im off for a good weekend, could not care less what you decide to do with, sit here and type abuse till your hearts content, I wont be reading it :-)
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kaindec
kaindec I stopped reading yout comment when your went on about being attacked, your entitled to your opinion yes. But when the facts are not correct then people have the right of reply. Are you saying that no one should reply to your comments unless they agree without you grabbing your tissues. Im sure you will take that as an attack. Re-read you reviews on the 20 suburbs you have done in 20 days and see where you have made judgement on people. Aasfor Fitzy88, I take his comment as his opinion on the traffic and day care as he has lived here, you haven't. In fact you havent lived in most of the places you have reviewed.
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kaindec
kaindec By the way,I rest my case. You can have the last say.
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golfers
golfers She says "After staying for 2 weeks as a trial, we are glad we did not buy here"
Given all the apparent 'knowledge' of economics and how bad the losses would be if you bought here, why would you stay for two weeks as a trial before buying? Who does this anyway....where would you stay?
Such talk is obviously from an agent trying to bring the higher rated suburbs down and their own suburb up. If you read her reviews, it's not hard to see where her office might be.
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Ollygt
Ollygt Traffic and commute time is always going to be a problem in the Western suburbs because there are no decent arterials at all, no busways etc. But its really the only problem despite some inflated prices for very ordinary homes, which once again seems to plague the Western suburbs.
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golfers
golfers Hey Olly.....but the reason prices are high for the type of real estate is because people want to live here. Prices are always driven by market supply and demand. You have stated the very reason why prices seem inflated, the only real problem is traffic, and even that can be managed, by most people, with a bit of thought. Everything else is brilliant which may be why you live here.
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Itsdoc
Itsdoc I don't know what way you were going to get to the airport but we NEVER had any issues with getting there. 25-30 min max. My brother lived with us for a while and worked at the airport, and never had a problem getting to the airport.....
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kaindec
kaindec It is interesting to note that 1. Ihatetraffic changed his name to Blahdeblah when people started to disagree .2. I Blahdablah, formally known as Ihatetraffic changed all his ratings to one star for every suburb that someone questioned his logic, Originally had Keperra and many others at 3 stars plus 3. Bladehblah hasnt been active since the flurry of reviews on 25+ suburbs from Wollongong to the Sunshine Coast. 4. Maybe the moderators should remove his reviews or at least change the ratings back to there original rating as it is clear they are not what he really thinks.
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Be_positive
Be_positive I think all the above arguments are pointless. Ultimately, we each find suburbs we like and want to live in, or are forced to live in due to budget constraints or can afford to pay inflated prices based solely on trends/class divides/perceived exclusiveness. My family will be moving to Keperra in Sept 2013, and we bought not on the basis of residents' comments alone but based on proximity to train, shops, flood reports, overall pricing, future resale value, the potential of the house itself to suit our current lifestyle, and the feel of the neighbourhood. We didn't like the idea of investing more than 500k on a house in Australia as many other suburbs are over-priced opposed to the actual land size + value of the house. Actual value and paper value are two different things. That is applicable anywhere one buys property. We have been buying/selling and own property in Singapore, Thailand, Malaysia and Australia so we have many years' practise in evaluating and purchasing value-for-money assets. So far, we have been lucky not to lose money in any of them. As for whether our neighbours are friendly or not, remains to be seen. The value of any suburb/city will speak for itself over time and by reputation spread by word of mouth and official statistics on safety, convenience, turn-over of residents profiles, property replacements/values and land prices. From all that we have read and heard, Keperra looks to be a suburb on the way upwards, albeit slowly. BTW, we bought a sloping block, and we like it as it gives us two varied facades, front and back of the house. So, it's all a matter of personal preference and evaluation. Let's just agree to disagree with ihatetraffic/blahdeblah. Instead, as residents of Keperra, let's put our time & energy into making it a great place to live in!
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ZarineH
ZarineH We bought in Keperra in 2013 at mid 400k price after doing some extensive research on proximity to train and city, location, suburb profile, shopping, house sizes, number of bathrooms, parking spaces, land size and comparative value of property. We are glad we bought here. Our neighbours are decent, hard working folk. we have not had a negative experience so far in terms of safety. There are several housing commission families but they are never a problem to us (except for loud gatherings some weekend nights but we had such problems even in "better", "posher" suburbs especially with wannabe "socialite" types and rich brats and their bratty, spoilt pals partying on weekends) and keep their yards neat. All in all, with all the properties we own or have owned in the past, Keperra has been very good value for money. Tenants are very happy - professional couple with small child in main house and another young couple in the granny flat. All amenities within 10 minutes walk or two - five minutes drive. And 20 minutes to city or airport during off peak. Plus the train down the street. And we like the sloping block as it give the house a unique character and style. And the "older" house gives us the chance to tweak it to our needs and purpose over the years, while adding value to the property. In fact, prices have gone up and our house is now valued at about 500K and fetches $480 a week return. What's not to like? In fact we are thinking of living in the house when we retire as the land size is good for gardening and we can just walk to the shops at GWSC. Don't judge any suburb by any one person's view. Research is important, and also budget and purpose of investment.
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5/5 rating details
  • Neighbourly Spirit 5/5
  • Safe & Sound 5/5
  • Clean & Green 5/5
  • Pest Free 4/5
  • Peace & Quiet 5/5
  • Eating Out 5/5
  • Nightlife 3/5
  • Parks & Recreation 5/5
  • Shopping Options 5/5
  • Gym & Fitness 5/5
  • Internet Access 5/5
  • Lack of Traffic 4/5
  • Parking 5/5
  • Cost of Living 3/5
  • Resale or Rental Value 3/5
  • Public Transport 2/5
  • Medical Facilities 5/5
  • Schools 3/5
  • Childcare 3/5
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"Best of the bayside suburbs"

Victoria Point is around 38 kilometres from Brisbane CBD right on the coast. The suburb is the gem of the bayside suburbs, there are 3 medical centres, plenty of restaurants, 2 woolworths, 1 coles, 1 aldi as well as a shopping centre with Kmart, plenty of boutique stores, crazy clarks, banks, cafes, 2 post offices as well as a huge cinema complex, lincraft, auto stores etc ,the list goes on. There is nothing you need to drive out if the suburb to get. There is even a Patton Big Gun Meats which offers 20% discount if the supermarkets have a lower price ( they never do) and next door to them is a fruit shop that has more choice than all the supermarkets put together.
There is a huge bunnings and a few nursery shops around for plants and landscaping needs, a ferry to take you to all the islands, excellent boat ramp facilities straight out onto Morton Bay as well as a beautiful walking track around the ocean and plenty of parklands.

The Victoria Point Tavern has excellent food with very reasonable specials, $12 for a surf and turf as well as a variety of kids meals all priced well. A huge sports lounge/TAB. The sharks leagues club has many sporting games that all the locals go and support as well as bands and tribute bands, raffles, bistro ( food not as good as the Tavern and over priced for what it is) drinks are reasonable and entertainment good.

Sirromet winnery is nearby where they host " a day on the green" concerts and have an award winning restaurant.

There is no public transport apart from a few buses, extremely bad in this area, taxi's are expensive as well. The private schools are good but expensive, the local state school is terrible.

House prices are still on the decline, people who bought in 2008 are selling for less than what they paid 4 years ago, there are still a lot of new developments and estates going up which will keep house prices down for a while as ids the case when this happens. Great for people renting as they avoid paying the expensive rates the council in this area charges, seriously, $60-$75 a week is just rude, this is a no go area for investment, you will have a massive out of pocket expense after your rates, agent fees, insurance, mortgage repayments and repairs.

Do your homework coming into this suburb, if you are after lifestyle and family friendly safe environment and you can afford private schools, then you will love it. If you are into boating , fitness and an outdoor lifestyle, you will love it. If you work in the city and you dont like driving then you will not like it.

Resale is bad at present, area is not holding value and is still declining, renting is a cheaper option, rental return is very bad, for a $400k property after all your fees ,rates etc you will still need to come up with over $300 a week for your repayments and cross your fingers no major reapirs need doing. Coucil rates make this place a no go zone for serious investors.

Locals are friendly, climate is great and this is the best suburb in the bayside, oly 50 minutes to the gold coast, 40 minutes, 4o minute to glass house mountains and Mount Tambourine, 40 minutes to the theme parks and 35 minutes to Brisbane CBD makes this an excellent location for a complete lifestyle, if you have a car.

There needs to be more done about the local state schools, when there are more private schools than state schools it is because of the demand, the demand is high because people just do not want to send their kids to the state schools as they are just that bad.

This is a suburb over time that will really go up in value due to the location itself, but it will be a while yet and only when a train station does go in and transport improves, 60 minutes on a bus to Carindale is Ok if your just going shopping but a nightmare if you have to get to work and do it everyday twice a day.

On the whole, an excellent place to live and raise a family and a fantastic location for every activity your heart could desire.

There are around 6 retirement villages in the area, this has it's ups and downs, not good for trying to get around at a reasonable pace when there are toyota crowns doing 30 kilometres down the only road to the shops,
Pros
  • Huge selection of restaurants
  • Every shop you could need
  • Ferry and boat ramps
  • magnificent fishing
  • excellent bikeways
  • Friendly
Cons
  • Expensive council rates
  • Expensive private schools
  • Terrible state schools
  • The only thing missing is a Train Line.
  • the traffic can be bad at times
Recommended for
  • Professionals
  • Families with kids
  • Retirees
  • Tourists
  • Beach Lovers
golfers
golfers Friend, Here again is your inconsistency. You have identified more negatives with this suburb that almost anywhere else and yet you have given it 5 stars....which is the thing that counts. Are we to assume that you live here? or is it simply a lack of logic
2yrs+
blahdeeblah
blahdeeblah Mate, knock yourself out wasting your time worrying about me, I really could not care less what you think about this suburb or any others, I review as I feel, as I can see , so do you. If you want to waste your time giving bad reviews to every suburb I have given a good review to then you clearly have a lot of time on your hands, but if this is what makes you happy, then good for you, we all need an outlet in life, and this is obviously yours, look at you having a go, good for you, glad to see your keeping yourself busy.
2yrs+
blahdeeblah
blahdeeblah I would call giving somewhere 2 stars and calling it "a wonderful place" inconsistent, better still, people can read your comment under my redland bay review if they want to see real inconsistency, seeing Redland bay is further our and with less shopping options, you seem to think that is a great place but you have indentified the very things your bagged here as a positive there. lol. Its amusing catching people out who are clearly focused on alteria motives as per your sudden interest in every suburb I have reviewed ever since Keperra review, boo hoo, I dont even live in QLD, and your bagging your own QLD suburbs, luckily my family thata re up here have no intention of selling or moving so your little negatives will never affect them, I might be i the market though soon once prices come down after you finish baggig everywhere, they will be sure to fall even more lol, silly silly.
2yrs+
golfers
golfers me wast my time worrying about you? you responded to my comment on feb13 and still stewing about it had to write more chidiish tripe the next day. you have written some pretty strange reviews if you don't live in queensland. We all know you are an agent from the bayside.
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3/5 rating details
  • Neighbourly Spirit 3/5
  • Safe & Sound 5/5
  • Clean & Green 4/5
  • Pest Free 2/5
  • Peace & Quiet 4/5
  • Eating Out 2/5
  • Nightlife 1/5
  • Parks & Recreation 5/5
  • Shopping Options 3/5
  • Gym & Fitness 2/5
  • Internet Access 2/5
  • Lack of Traffic 5/5
  • Parking 5/5
  • Cost of Living 4/5
  • Resale or Rental Value 1/5
  • Public Transport 1/5
  • Medical Facilities 1/5
  • Schools 1/5
  • Childcare 1/5
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"A bit far out, overpriced for what it is, nice but over rated"

Redland Bay is a east side coastal town of brisbane, it is around 40kms to the city, there is no trainline and very bad bus service which renders the public transport as virtually NIL. There is a small expensive convenience style shopping centre in Redland Bay itself, a Bank Of Queensland Branch, a few realestate agencies, newsagent and a fruit shop as well as one pub which has a monopoly of the whole area and charges accordingly to that.

There a re a massive amount of Houses on the Market at present and around the neighbourig suburbs, a quick review on some recent sales compared to when those same houses sold in 2007/2008 and the same ones were sold for less than what they were pruchased for 4 years ago, very bad growth as a lot of development went up and as is the case everywhere when this happens, they were overpriced off the plan and it will take another 3-4 years before they catch up with the market.

A lot of mangroves and morton bay figs prevent good water views so I would be careful buying a house based on water views unless they are direct as I have spoken to afew locals who HAD water views but as the suburb grows, more houses go up and trees reach maturity, the water views have diminished.

Nearby Victoria Point has an excellent shopping centre, but if you dont want to drive be prepared to pay a bomb for a cab as it will cost you $5 to sit in it and over $2 a kilometre as well as 70c a minute waiting time at lights, traffic etc, people move out there to have a nicer house for their money but rates are expensive, over $70 a week for rates, that has hurt a lot of people in this area, top it off with over priced restaurants and domination of Coles and Woolworths and you can see the picture, not to mention you will need your car to go everywhere and as petrol hits $1.50 a litre it starts to add to the bottom line. Sure you save $200k on a house of choice but if your rates are double that of most suburbs and your petrol bill and wear and tear on your car is 3 fold then is it really that much cheaper? Not to mention the time you will spend in traffic which is horrendous at peak hour as there are no public transport options so everyone drives to get to work, school and shopping.

Avoid at all costs as a investment area, the expensive council rates make it a bad investment, if you buy a house for $400k, you will get $370 a week tops, once you take out $35 agent fees, $70 rates, $20 Insurance and $20 repairs that will leave you $225 to put towards your $600 mortgage repayment, ad seeing houses are still declining then the smart ones are renting as why would you pay all that money when you can rent with no responsibility or at least buy in a different area with not as many overheads and a much better rent return, this is one of the reasons why houses sit on the market there for so long and there are so many on the market, there are a number of houses that have been on the market for over 18 months, some have reduced their asking price by over $200k, check it yourself.

The publci schools are beyond bad, thats why there are so many private schools in a 5km radius of each other, expect to pay $3k a year for Rita's, $8k a year for Faith Lutheran and over $10k a year for Sheldon College as well as Redlands College, Ormiston private school is not far and is equally as expensive, the public schools are not up to scratch by a long shot.

Lots of medical centres in Victoria point but most do not bulk bill and hard and pulling hens teeth to get in as there are about 15 retirement villages around and an endless convoy of them going to and from the doctors surgery makes it hard when you have small kids who's needs for doctors can ot be planned.

One of my friends daughters broke her arms at After school care at Faith at 3.30pm and only got seen at the local hospital at 8pm at night, she had to sit there in the waiting room holding her daughters arm for over 4 hours, to me, that is frightening, the response was, that this was quick for them.

Nice looking area, nice if you have a boat, bad if you have to work in the city, bad for state schools, you need to be above middle income to afford all the extras that you will be be hit with in this area.

Do your homework on house values before you buy, because if you have to sell due to unseen circumstances within a 2 year perios you will end up owing money.

Retirement heaven, think twice if your thinking of raising a family there and you dont have buckets of money to spend every week.
Pros
  • Fishing, Boating and Sports
Cons
  • I would say 25 minute to train station at Cleveland
  • Mainly retirees
  • Expensive schools and expensive council rates $70pw
  • 15 miniute drive to the train station
  • Needs a closer supermarket and retail shops
  • not a lot of buses
Recommended for
  • Professionals
  • Retirees
  • Tourists
benbrown
benbrown If you don't like it stay away. You make it sound as though the Redlands is the only place in Australia where house prices are down, petrol it up, Private schools are expensive, hospitals are struggling to cope blah blah blah. Get out of your bubble and have a look around. The reason we choose to live here is because to the people, the lifestyle and because it is awat from the city. If all these issues you discussed are concerning you, good luck finding your 'perfect' place to live. You obviously have high expectations and didn't do your research before you moved to the area if you have so many complaints about the place. Think about it: no train line, less crime; no major shopping centre in Redland Bay, less traffic; more schools, better options. By the way 10k a year for private schooling such as Sheldon and Ormiston is very reasonable (Rated as some of QLD's best). Once again do your research and compare around Brisbane. Most of the people here love it and if they don't, well they move. I suggest you do the latter.
2yrs+
golfers
golfers I know Redland bay well.
I was at Redland Bay only today. Caught the ferry out to the islands for a meeting and on returning had great meal in a fantastic environment. Redland Bay is a totally wonderful place with so much going for it.
Sure there is quite a bit of development going on which makes some areas a bit ugly right now but thats just proof of how popular it is. My OPINION is that Redland Bay will surpass the other Bayside suburbs by a good margin in the not too distant future and if I'm wrong, the residents there will be just as happy.
2yrs+
blahdeeblah
blahdeeblah We stayed in a stayz house at mill street, visiting a relative at Victoria Point, I agree that private schools are expensive, but when the locals told me they had no choice as the state schools were so bad as a lot of vagrants come over from the islands, then obviously there is an issue, by the way, this was the "locals" who explained this to me. I belive the area is lovely, it is just overpriced, lots of houses ahve been reduced by tens of thousands, one place over $300k reduction. A family with 3-4 kids would struggle to send all their kids to a private school, and why should kids be disadvantaged by having a choice of a bad public schoo;l because parents can not afford expensive fees. There is no excuse for bad schools, they all get the same government funding. You say there is less crime, I agree, I know my sister has not had any issue at all at Victoria Point, but one reviewer of Victoria Point, the next suburb, said she had 3 breakins, her daughter terrorised and a bike stolen! That is pretty bad crime rate if that review is completely true. Sheldona nd Ormiston are 15-20 minutes away from Redland Bay, long way to go to get to school everyday. I actually think it is a lovely place to holiday, but I feel sorry for the people who are losing hand over fist on property there at the moment, I saw one listing that is reduced by over $700k this morning. I agree with you totally on the area, but it would be better to rent than to buy here at the moment, that is just how it is, and if your into being "green" well, you have to drive everywhere, as the bus service is shocking and random.
2yrs+
raychs
raychs Are the rates really that bad.... can anyone else shed some light on this ?
2yrs+
golfers
golfers the rates are maybe a bit exy for the services available but pretty much in line with the surrounding areas. The person who commented above you is just a total nut case. she used to be called ihatetraffic. if you like to laugh, search her profile (both names) and read her reviews and the comments. she knows everything about everywhere. A real looney
2yrs+
Carly
Carly The rates are really expensive. I don't know what for half the time. They've forgotten to pick up my rubbish bin more than once and if you call Council after 24 hours, they can't help you, you have to empty it yourself. When we first bought in the area, rates bill came to about $820 for 3 months, but I have restricted water usage by my family and our recent bill was $726 for 3 months. It's more expensive than electricity and electricity is a fair wack. The way these rates bills are going, I will have paid $2900 annually. Which is insane.
2yrs+
KelL
KelL Am looking at moving my family up from tas ..I have my parents in Victoria point ..but I am really looking for a good quality house ...not crazy rent and a good high school (public) for my soon to be yr 7 daughter ..any recommendations?
2yrs+
caitlinkelly
caitlinkelly I think this feedback is really helpful. This site is not just to help people push up the value of their own houses.
Aug 25, 2017
AjB1
AjB1 Redland Bay has Changed over the past year or so, we have had a 7 eleven and drive through Coffee Club now open with more shops comming. The Donald Rd shops had a small expansion done to bring in more future shops. More housing estates comming and more people moving in. Road upgrades are now occuring with more to come with the shoreline developnent. With Thornlands and Cleveland now out of price for quite a few people, more people are moving to Redland Bay.
May 14, 2018
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4/5 rating details
  • Neighbourly Spirit 4/5
  • Safe & Sound 3/5
  • Clean & Green 4/5
  • Pest Free 3/5
  • Peace & Quiet 4/5
  • Eating Out 3/5
  • Nightlife 2/5
  • Parks & Recreation 4/5
  • Shopping Options 4/5
  • Gym & Fitness 3/5
  • Internet Access 4/5
  • Lack of Traffic 5/5
  • Parking 5/5
  • Cost of Living 5/5
  • Resale or Rental Value 5/5
  • Public Transport 5/5
  • Medical Facilities 3/5
  • Schools 3/5
  • Childcare 3/5
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4/5 rating details
  • Neighbourly Spirit 4/5
  • Safe & Sound 3/5
  • Clean & Green 3/5
  • Pest Free 3/5
  • Peace & Quiet 3/5
  • Eating Out 4/5
  • Nightlife 4/5
  • Parks & Recreation 4/5
  • Shopping Options 5/5
  • Gym & Fitness 3/5
  • Internet Access 5/5
  • Lack of Traffic 4/5
  • Parking 5/5
  • Cost of Living 5/5
  • Resale or Rental Value 4/5
  • Public Transport 5/5
  • Medical Facilities 4/5
  • Schools 2/5
  • Childcare 3/5
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"Ingleburn is a rough diamond on the up and only getting better"

Years ago I would of frowned at this suburb, 10 years later I am impressed by the change for the better.

The housing Commission is all but gone, the roads and infrastructure is excellent and there is plenty of community spirit as the pelople who grew up here can afford to stay, there are not many suburbs this is acheivable.

The restaurants offer affordable dining are are plentiful and lots of choice, chinese, indian, thai, italian as well as your your junk food outlets, a big supermarket complex in ingleburn itself and your big choice macarthur square ( equivilant to westfields) 10 minutes away in Campbelltown.

The crime rate has dropped as the majority of people living there now all own (paying off) their own homes, you can buy brick houses for around $260- $300k which makes mortage repayments cheaper than renting.

Plenty of work in the actual suburb itself and near by Campbelltown, good sporting grounds and the kids in the area actually go outside and play sport on weekends, Mums and dads go and watch and they know each other as most have grown up in the area.

Because the housing is affordable, mortgage repossessions are actually one of the lowest in Sydney which surprised me ay first but it makes sense when you think about it as people will always need a place to live and if it cheaper than renting then it makes a lot of sense.

The parks and play grounds are spacious and there is plenty of them, some of the run down shopping centres are improving by leaps and bounds now that the housing commission is gone.

The schools are still not good though, and the locals need to be proactive with this and get on the backs of Council and local government, the Parents need to take more time to be a more active presence in the schools to make sure things are being done for the better, bullying needs to be addressed as does truency which is still higher than a lot of areas in Sydney.

Overall, pick a good street and take the time to get to know the neighbours as they are very friendly and I was pleasantly surprised by the community spirit and the genuine down to earth attitude of the locals.

Great for young families, people who like a bit of country lifestyle spirit, retirees and people who want to be able to afford to stay where they grew up.

Ingleburn, the rough diamond starting to shine.
Pros
  • Affordable housing
  • Main demographic young families
  • High home ownership means tidy towns
  • Convenience to everywhere
  • Simple and essential shopping facilities...WE DON"T NEED A WESTFIELDS!
  • Friendly Neighbours
Cons
  • Schools need a kick up the behind
  • Not enough Police!
Recommended for
  • Families with kids
  • Retirees
  • Country Lovers
1/5 rating details
  • Neighbourly Spirit 1/5
  • Safe & Sound 2/5
  • Clean & Green 2/5
  • Pest Free 2/5
  • Peace & Quiet 1/5
  • Eating Out 3/5
  • Nightlife 1/5
  • Parks & Recreation 3/5
  • Shopping Options 4/5
  • Gym & Fitness 3/5
  • Internet Access 3/5
  • Lack of Traffic 1/5
  • Parking 4/5
  • Cost of Living 3/5
  • Resale or Rental Value 1/5
  • Public Transport 2/5
  • Medical Facilities 2/5
  • Schools 2/5
  • Childcare 3/5
Just now

"Terrible resale value with low rental return"

In 2003 there were a number of estates that were selling off the plan for $405k - $445k around the Lemon Grove and Arcacia Ridge area, if you look o the market now these same houses are being sold for $550k give or take $10k, don't just take my word for it though, check out onthehouse as well as sold properties on RP or even on realestate.com , select any given street inn these areas and see for yourself.

This means that in 9 years these places have gone up by an average of 30%, at that rate, it would take 30 years to double your money. Why? Because the roads are jammed and crowded, the schools are not good ,the suburb backs on to Parklea Jail and comes under the juristiction of Blacktown Council, one of the highest crime rates and unemployment rates in Sydney. Suburbs also included in this area are Doonside and Mount Druit.

Catch the train at your risk as there are massive safety issues at night , even the elderly are not safe, most recently with a nursing home being burnt down by one of the staff who worked there. The local hospital is Blacktown hospital, who would seriously want to have a baby at that hospital ? If you call the police for a theft issue then expect to be basically abused because they are so stretched trying to deal with wayward youths, car accididents and armed robbery that if you have a residential issue they will basically brush you aside, not the sort of thing you can feel good about at night raising a young family.

Neighbourly spirit is NIL, no one looks out for anyone and there are certain areas that you will find segregation by different nationalities depending on what mosq or temple is close by.

If you doubt this them just take a drive through some of the mentioned areas and see how little effort goes into maintaining lawns and gardens, as well as the graffitti popping up everywhere and the vacant blocks of land used as rubbish dumps, the police are too busy to deal with any of that.

You will have plenty of choice for shopping and shopping centres and nearby suburbs like blacktown and castle hill have diing options from cheap and nasty to expensive depending on which suburb you dine in.

This suburb is a better choice than Rouse Hill or kellyville though if you work in the city or Parramatta as you will take at least 30 minutes each way off your travel time.

A good palce to live if your purpose is to stay close to family and school friends, but dont buy thinking you will make money on realestate, that ship sailed in 1998 when people could buy a old house for around $150k, the suburb jumped in value over a 12 moth period and all the developement that went up was overpriced which is still catching up, lots of people lost their homes and there were streets and streets of mortgagee possessions leading up to the GFC and after, they are still steady now as some people re-financed cars etc into their home loans.

Add up your repayments, your rates as well as your day by day expenses ( you will NEED aircon and insurance) and then look at that amount verse renting, the roads will be a major factor in slow growth as well as the fact that there are still new developmets going up cheaper than people trying to resell a 8 year old home.

If your an investor and your considering buying a house for $550k for a rent return of $540 a week, If you work out your return after your agents fees ( $40 P/W), insurance ( $20 P/W), rates ($25 P/W , water rates( $15P/W), repairs ( average $20 P/W ) ( tenants call a plumber to change a tap washer theses days and the tenancy laws allow them to do this) and mortgage repayments ( on $500k interest only your weekly repayments are $650 a week), you will need to come up with at least $230 a week on top of your rent and over $350p/w to actually start paying it off, it will take 10 years just to be NEUTRALLY geared ( break even).

Get a bad tenant and then you can start adding in rent default, replacing carpet, lawns, repainting etc and the tenancy tribunal will MAYBE award you the 4 week bond at best which will NOT covered anywhere near what insurance calls "bad housekeeping"

Insurance companies do not cover lawns ad carpet stains nor do they cover filth and mess or rubbish or walls beig repainted as they call this "poor housekeeping" it is not "malicious damage"

If after reading all these facts ( easy to get more info on this off your accountant as a start ) you still think Quakers Hill is a good place to invest, then good luck to you and all the best, you will need it, I just hope these words don't one day haunt you.
Cons
  • Crime rate high
  • Very bad tranport, unsafe train station
  • Low resale value bad rent returns
  • Has peak hour bottle neck
  • small blocks of land
Recommended for
  • Retirees
mwalker
mwalker Sounds like somebody got burnt by a bad tenant and is bitter about the experience. Having actually lived there for 7 years, been a part of the local community through sporting groups, university, childcare/kindergarten and having a social group in the local area, I can't see the truth to most of your rant. But the internet allows anonymous arseholes like you to spray venom like this without any thought.

Oh, and we had one of our children at Blacktown hospital which had just been upgraded/renovated in 2001. Add to that the fact that I commuted daily to the City and often came home after hours, not once was I the victim of a crime on the public transport network.

Maybe you're the problem!
2yrs+
golfers
golfers I disagree with you mwalker. not maybe, definately!
2yrs+
vncharan
vncharan Arcacia Garden is not Quakers Hill, its a different Suburb with sames Quakers Hill Post code.

Trains are safe, as me my wife and our friend commute and there are instances where we use it for late night.

Blacktown hosipital is great place for have child birth, we had our Daugther here.
2yrs+
MyTwocents
MyTwocents blahdeeblah. Dry your eyes mate. You should check out one of the local temples and find inner peace. You are indeed a bitter & twisted individual. Definately.
2yrs+
SteveB2
SteveB2 What a load of #$%^88^6...Blahwho ever you are..in case you didn't realise there was a period of a down turn every where for 6 of those 10 years and the fact is Quakers Hill performed well considering and compared to others. we were recently rated top 100 suburbs in Australia and just recently top 5 suburbs in NSW for quickest sale time on market .. What is the real reason for your rant ???
2yrs+
GillianW
GillianW One of the reasons why Quakers Hill is so great to live in is the high ratio of owner occupiers to investors. In my street where I grew up, most of the owners surrounding my parent's house have lived there for decades. The only problem neighbours they have are renters behind them. I am more than happy for investors to leave the area and for an owner occupier to move in.
2yrs+
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2/5 rating details
  • Neighbourly Spirit 1/5
  • Safe & Sound 3/5
  • Clean & Green 4/5
  • Pest Free 3/5
  • Peace & Quiet 2/5
  • Eating Out 5/5
  • Nightlife 1/5
  • Parks & Recreation 5/5
  • Shopping Options 1/5
  • Gym & Fitness 3/5
  • Internet Access 2/5
  • Lack of Traffic 1/5
  • Parking 1/5
  • Cost of Living 1/5
  • Resale or Rental Value 4/5
  • Public Transport 2/5
  • Medical Facilities 4/5
  • Schools 4/5
  • Childcare 2/5
Just now

"Unfriendly and judgemental residents"

If you can afford to have a new BMW or live on the water then you will love this area. If you visit the local schools you will see the types of Mums picking up their kids. The ones dressed to the nines parking their new 4wd smothered in bling and the mums who have walked to the school and look like they have spent the day caring for kids and doing housework rather than directing the cleaner on what to do next.

This suburb has a big issue with what side of the fence you are on financially, kids as young as 5 are being questioned on the labels they wear and the occupations or residential status of their parents.

If you want you children to grow up level headed with good manners then I would not recommend you do do in this suburb, but if you dont mind your kids being spoilt brats who are rude to people and have no manners then you will love the attitude of the locals.

Expesive council rates , bad roads full of pot holes and overgrown trees covered safety mirrors on blind spots, terrible to try and park, expensive for everything limited choice of schools, very good if you make the burraneer bay school line, terrible if you end up at Cronulla Public school as Cronulla is full of 1-2 bedroom units which single mothers and low income earners pile their whole families into just so they can stay in " the shire".

Do your homework and meet the locals before you commit to buy
Pros
  • Walk to lots of restaurants but expensive
  • it only rake 20 minutes to walk to the beach
Cons
  • No parking
  • Traffic congestion
  • Odd riot every now and then
  • the locals
Recommended for
  • Professionals
  • Singles
  • Retirees
  • Tourists
  • Gay & Lesbian
  • Hipsters
  • Trendy & Stylish
  • Beach Lovers
4/5 rating details
  • Neighbourly Spirit 4/5
  • Safe & Sound 2/5
  • Clean & Green 4/5
  • Pest Free 3/5
  • Peace & Quiet 4/5
  • Eating Out 2/5
  • Nightlife 2/5
  • Parks & Recreation 4/5
  • Shopping Options 5/5
  • Gym & Fitness 2/5
  • Internet Access 4/5
  • Lack of Traffic 4/5
  • Parking 5/5
  • Cost of Living 5/5
  • Resale or Rental Value 3/5
  • Public Transport 5/5
  • Medical Facilities 5/5
  • Schools 2/5
  • Childcare 5/5
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"Minto is on the improve and will just get better"

The disasterous housing commission project which a stupid government implemented without thought and involved multi townhouse complexes all crammed together to form half a suburb has at long last been bulldozed.

The crime rate has started to decline and the new affordable housig in the area has had a good impact, the once destitute minto shopping centre has started to get a new lease of life and the vandals and degenerates of the area have moved on to other housing commissions at Maquarie Fields.

Good transport with buses and trains as well as a huge shopping centre, good sporting community with,lots of kids playing sports on weekends , the schools in the area need a good kick up the behind though as there is rife bullying and slack discipline from both schools and parents.

Realestate has been steady but not fantastic but this should improve dramatically now though .

With more focus on safety now maybe investors will return to the area as it has been a big issue in the past with damage and vandalism, the council rates are very reasonable compared to most suburbs in Sydney and this is a big factor when looking to buy or invest. The infrastructure of the roads is good and that is another plus.

For those who can not afford suburbs closer to the city it is definitely a good choice, it is closer than Narellan, Mount Annan and Campbelltown, has plenty of shops and probably too many takeaway chains for the health nuts but will appeal to those who like to drive 2 kms tops or walk to a full choice of your big chain junk food outlets, plenty of sporting options including NRL games in the next suburn of Leumeah where the West Tigers have their home ground and massive leagues club which has good and affordable dining optios as well as heaps of parking and a courtesy bus.

Plently of work around in Ingleburn and campbelltown so heaven for those who like to live close to where they work.

I am guessing in 10 years from now it will be a totally revamped suburb and will be a suburb of choice for young families who want to spend time with their children with one main wage earner as long as the locals keep on the governments back about the problem with the schools in the area.
Pros
  • Good shopping centres
  • Good sporting facilities
  • Good public transport
  • Very Cheap Newer Houses in the area
  • Green Parks - looks nice but unsafe at night
Cons
  • slack police response time
  • Minors commiting crimes let off repeatedly
  • Worst schools - not good for kids
Recommended for
  • Singles
  • Families with kids
  • Retirees
  • Country Lovers
1/5 rating details
  • Neighbourly Spirit 2/5
  • Safe & Sound 3/5
  • Clean & Green 4/5
  • Pest Free 2/5
  • Peace & Quiet 2/5
  • Eating Out 2/5
  • Nightlife 1/5
  • Parks & Recreation 2/5
  • Shopping Options 5/5
  • Gym & Fitness 4/5
  • Internet Access 2/5
  • Lack of Traffic 1/5
  • Parking 4/5
  • Cost of Living 2/5
  • Resale or Rental Value 1/5
  • Public Transport 1/5
  • Medical Facilities 3/5
  • Schools 1/5
  • Childcare 3/5
Just now

"Real estate suicide"

Sadly, if you move out there the transport is bad, the roads are not built to cope with the amount of housing that has gone up there in the last 10 years, there is no train and despite labor promising there would be for decades this has not happened. The buses are expensive and random and if you drive you can expect to pay expensive tolls for roads that are more like carparks. It really is a disgrace in this day and age, we moved away so we could regain our life as we were spending 20 hours a week each sitting in traffic not to mention the fuel and tolls which equated to around $200 per week per car after tax! We bit the bullet and decided to get a bigger mortgage in a suburb with better transport and low and behold we are actually financially better off this way!! If you google the topic for transport out there you will see how bad it is, A current affair has run several programs on people eating their breakfast in the car and the difficulty in juggling childcare pick up and drop ofss to get to work on time etc, it seriously is very bad.

The shopping centres are vast and plentiful if that is your thing, there are 3 pubs to choose from, all very big and pricey for a pub with what is on offer, you could go to a nice restaurant and have proper table service for the same price, I just don't understand how that stacks up.

There is definitely segregation with the different cultures there and you have a huge difference between the socio economics in the area from the "haves" and the "have nots", the place is serious real estate suicide as no one has made ay money o property in that area for the last 9 years, houses that were selling off the plan for $415k in 2002 are selling today for $555k, so much for realestate doubling every 7-10 years, people who rented for the last decade have saved a lot of money as they dont have to pay rates, insurance, mortgage, water rates or repairs, and there is no indication that this area will go up in value anytime soon seeing the inadequate transportation and roads in the area. I suspect that most of the good reviews here are from people who are trying to sell their house and are bombing forums talking up the suburb. I still own a house there and it has taken 10 years for it to become neutrally geared, the agents in the area are very slack at manageing properties and if you do decide to rent out your house expect to have issues with every second tenant you get.

I suspect that the crime rate will only get worse as it has been creeping up over the years, the area is full of massive double storey houses and the people who live there and cant afford to buy their own homes are stuck with big rents because they all want a nice new big house despite not being able to afford it.

Rent default is huge compared to other suburbs which you can check for yourself on other websites and mortgage default is higher than most other suburbs in the whole of Australia!

Despite all the big shops, pubs and houses the reality is that it is out in whoop whoop, the schools are average, it takes 2 hours to get to the closest beach and in summer it is as hot as hell so you better like having a huge electricity bill with the air con going 24-7 just to stay sane. The locals like to refer to themselves in the bracket of " the northside" which is a laugh but hey I am just as amused with people who live at sutherland referring to themselves as coming from " the shire".

The baulkham hills shire children cant afford to stay in baulkham hills so they all move to kellyville, rouse hill and quakers hill for no other reason than to stay in their " insular penisular".

Do your homework, drive around the streets, go to the shoppig centres, do a drive to the city in peak hour, check the council rates and insurance and go on RP Data or onthehouse so you can see how badly this suburb has performed over the years, real estate suicide that you will have to wait for 15 years to get out so you dont lose oney when other suburbs have tripled in that time. Actual house sales values below.
Warilla/Sheelharbour 2002 House value $140k 2012 House Value $350k 150% increase
Woolooware 2002 House value $515k 2012 House Value $985k 85% increase
Minto 2002 House Value $195k 2012 House value $385k 95% increase
Parramatta 2002 House value $295k 2012 House value $620k 110% increas

Rouse Hill 2002 House Value $425k 2012 Hosue Value $565k 35% increase in 10 YEARS!!
Pros
  • big shopping centres
  • big houses
Cons
  • bad transport
  • middle of no where
  • terrible realestate growth
Recommended for
  • Singles
  • Retirees
  • Gay & Lesbian
  • Country Lovers
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